Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker

[joeydb]

It should not be controversial to state that the government should not spend more than it takes in. Period.

Everyone has to get a grip. The debt is too high, and if you live above your means today, you will need to live below your means tomorrow. Math, not political alignment, is the sole important factor in this "debate". It's a math problem. Get the spending to a level less than the revenue coming in, and use the amount (revenue - spending) to pay down the debt.

That is the ONLY course of action. There is no such thing as an entitlement. You're not entitled to anything. If you owned stock in a company having negative value, you own part of the debt, and will reap no profit. This absurd situation has been going on for 80 years, since the 1930's and the ridiculous notion of Social Security. It is well past time for all this lunacy to end, before the dollar itself dies. Then your shares in the U.S. will truly be worthless.

[Riot]

It should not be controversial to state that the government should not spend more than it takes in. Period.

Tell that to Gov. Scott Walker. He had $136 million in this year's budget, but first thing he did once elected was to give out $140 million in unfunded tax cuts to corporations.

Now he's bitching he's broke and teachers have to pay for it.

Yeah this thread still sucks.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Tell that to Gov. Scott Walker. He had $136 million in this year's budget, but first thing he did once elected was to give out $140 million in unfunded tax cuts to corporations.

Now he's bitching he's broke and teachers have to pay for it.

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/...ve-budget-sur/



the astute political commentator gives us her best lie yet?....and this is your proof,.Riot???....oh dear

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

the astute political commentator gives us her best lie yet?....and this is your proof,.Riot???....oh dear

Excuse me? You are not calling me a liar, I hope? GFY, Timmi. How dare you. I have never posted something deliberately that I knew was untrue. If I post something that's factually wrong, I've always admitted it and changed it (did that once in this thread, in fact)

I don't know what Rachel Maddow said, I don't watch her show, and I'm not responsible for what she says. If you are talking about Walkers budget surplus, yes, indeed, he did have one.

Try reading here, smartazz: http://legis.wisconsin.gov/lfb/Misc/...os&Darling.pdf And then try reading more than the top line of what you posted from Politifact, so you can see what it actually refers to. Then try reading the rebuttal of that Politifact claim, so you can see it's not as simplistic as you apparently think it is, here http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...rachel-maddow/

By the way, where's your budget plan for Wisconsin? C'mon, Timmi - you're really good at jumping in threads and calling names. You demanded I post a budget. You call me a liar about the Wisconsin budget? Do you have anything of substance to offer on the subject? Show us your vast knowledge of the events in Wisconsin, Timmi and post your own budget suggestions. Or are you just a thread troll?

[dellinger63]

A Wisconsin judge has ordered pro-union protesters to be removed from the state Capitol.

Dane County Circuit Judge John Albert ruled Thursday night that protesters remaining in the building should be immediately removed — along with any unauthorized materials such as sleeping bags and signs taped to the Capitol walls.

http://www.gazettextra.com/weblogs/l...s-out-capitol/

I'd like to see the homeless all over the nation protest their 'homelessness' by setting up in Fed buildings that are empty and heated/cooled at night.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

A Wisconsin judge has ordered pro-union protesters to be removed from the state Capitol.

Dane County Circuit Judge John Albert ruled Thursday night that protesters remaining in the building should be immediately removed — along with any unauthorized materials such as sleeping bags and signs taped to the Capitol walls.

http://www.gazettextra.com/weblogs/l...s-out-capitol/

I'd like to see the homeless all over the nation protest their 'homelessness' by setting up in Fed buildings that are empty and heated/cooled at night.

Damge to the capital is estimated around $5 million some of which can never be fixed.
Way to use tape that wrecks marble. You got your point across now they should have to pay for it

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Damge to the capital is estimated around $5 million some of which can never be fixed.
Way to use tape that wrecks marble. You got your point across now they should have to pay for it

Simple have the teachers' pension fund pay for it.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Damge to the capital is estimated around $5 million some of which can never be fixed.
Way to use tape that wrecks marble. You got your point across now they should have to pay for it

Amazingly, that number is being thrown around, with no factual support. The Democratic assemblymen who are in the capital, and have been there, are trying to find out how that number was arrived upon, as they haven't seen that damage during the week. The Republicans just started saying it.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Dane County Circuit Judge John Albert ruled Thursday night that protesters remaining in the building should be immediately removed — along with any unauthorized materials such as sleeping bags and signs taped to the Capitol walls.

Judge Albert also ruled at the same time that the State of Wisconsin is in contempt for not allowing the protestors access as he previously ordered over the past day. Continuing the next line of your story:

The judge also ruled that the state violated constitutional protections for free speech and assembly by restricting access to the building. He ordered the administration to re-open the building to the general public by 8 a.m. Monday, allowing for a permitting process limiting the times and places where rallies can be held.

The protesters were allowed back in 8:00am this am. Per Judge Albert, they are to be allowed in any time there is business in the capital. They do not have to be allowed in overnight if the capital is closed. The Democratic assemblymen are going to start holding overnight office hours so people can be allowed in 24 hours a day.

Yesterday, three of the Assemblymen moved their desks outside, before Albert's ruling, so they could meet with their constituents.

Gov. Scott Walker better be careful if he wants to win that recall election: two months in office, and already ethics violation complaints, union bargaining complaints filed, caught lying to Senate Democrats, he's violated his citizens rights of free speech and assembly, and every single poll of his voters shows they do not agree with his stripping collective bargaining rights from state employees. Being a dictator isn't working out very well for him.

Yesterday, despite Walker's threats of forcable detainment, the 14 Democratic Senators are still refusing to return until Walker removes the collective bargaining rights strip from the current "emergency" budget repair bill, and places it in the general budget bill.

Because Walker has already lied to the Democrats about compromise (the Koch tape), they will not return until it's actually done and removed from the bill to be voted upon.

Then removing collective bargaining rights can be subject to needed public hearings and calmly debated in the next three months with the rest of the general budget.

Walker so far has refused. Some of the other Republican Senators are fine with that offered compromise, and are becoming increasingly uncomfortable with Walker's stubborness in the face of overwhelming disapproval by the public, the concessions offered by the unions, and the concessions offered by the Democratic Senators. Dictators aren't popular in America.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Excuse me? You are not calling me a liar, I hope? GFY, Timmi. How dare you. I have never posted something deliberately that I knew was untrue. If I post something that's factually wrong, I've always admitted it and changed it (did that once in this thread, in fact)

I don't know what Rachel Maddow said, I don't watch her show, and I'm not responsible for what she says. If you are talking about Walkers budget surplus, yes, indeed, he did have one.

Try reading here, smartazz: http://legis.wisconsin.gov/lfb/Misc/...os&Darling.pdf And then try reading more than the top line of what you posted from Politifact, so you can see what it actually refers to. Then try reading the rebuttal of that Politifact claim, so you can see it's not as simplistic as you apparently think it is, here http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...rachel-maddow/

By the way, where's your budget plan for Wisconsin? C'mon, Timmi - you're really good at jumping in threads and calling names. You demanded I post a budget. You call me a liar about the Wisconsin budget? Do you have anything of substance to offer on the subject? Show us your vast knowledge of the events in Wisconsin, Timmi and post your own budget suggestions. Or are you just a thread troll?

You have been parading around, yapping about this "surplus" when its FALSE!
I never said I had a proposal, I just wanted you to stop building your supposed platform on a lie! I was calling Maddow a liar. Take a Midol, for Gods sake!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

You have been parading around, yapping about this "surplus" when its FALSE!
I never said I had a proposal, I just wanted you to stop building your supposed platform on a lie! I was calling Maddow a liar. Take a Midol, for Gods sake!

False? No. Really, Timmi, you should investigate what you post before you make yourself look uninformed. I'd go back and read what I posted about that in the first answer to you, if I were you. Here it is again: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...rachel-maddow/

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

False? No. Really, Timmi, you should investigate what you post before you make yourself look uninformed. I'd go back and read what I posted about that in the first answer to you, if I were you. Here it is again: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...rachel-maddow/

You are one nutty lady! Did you bother to read Bill Adairs reply to Maddows producer! Talking about comportment...I've never "GFY" to you on any subject.

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by joeydb

It should not be controversial to state that the government should not spend more than it takes in. Period.

Everyone has to get a grip. The debt is too high, and if you live above your means today, you will need to live below your means tomorrow. Math, not political alignment, is the sole important factor in this "debate". It's a math problem. Get the spending to a level less than the revenue coming in, and use the amount (revenue - spending) to pay down the debt.

That is the ONLY course of action. There is no such thing as an entitlement. You're not entitled to anything. If you owned stock in a company having negative value, you own part of the debt, and will reap no profit. This absurd situation has been going on for 80 years, since the 1930's and the ridiculous notion of Social Security. It is well past time for all this lunacy to end, before the dollar itself dies. Then your shares in the U.S. will truly be worthless.