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![]() That's right - her name's Samantha, but she prefers Sam.
Here's the full Derby field: 10111 Jimmy Choux 7 94 56.0 Jonathan Riddell John Bary, Hastings 12530 He's Remarkable 14 82 56.0 Matthew Cameron Roger James, Cambridge 01221 Icepin 5 88 56.0 Sam Spratt Jason Bridgman, Matamata 31160 Hidden Asset 8 73 56.0 Shaune Ritchie, Cambridge 21642 On The Level 12 80 56.0 Michael Coleman Murray & Bjorn Baker, Cambridge 31360 Yourein 13 70 56.0 Lisa Allpress John Sargent, Matamata 45559 Encosta Diablo 3 75 56.0 Opie Bosson Jason Bridgman, Matamata 12126 Jetset Lad 17 84 56.0 Scott Galloway John Wheeler, New Plymouth 23212 Nippin 11 76 56.0 Allan Sharrock, New Plymouth 23328 Yin Yang Master 10 76 56.0 Mark Du Plessis John Sargent, Matamata 52115 O'Reilly's Prize 1 78 56.0 Hayden Tinsley David Haworth & Matt Dixon, Foxton 11234 Historian 4 77 56.0 Chad Ormsby Tony Pike & Mark Donoghue, Cambridge 11446 Raffles Knight 2 74 56.0 Stephen McKee, Ardmore 54113 Sierra Nevada 16 77 56.0 Richard & Chris Otto, Te Awamutu 171 Wisecrack 15 74 56.0 Ken & Bev Kelso, Matamata 44913 Between The Beats 9 70 56.0 Jeff Lynds, Awapuni 52110 Banchee 6 86 54.5 James McDonald (a) John Sargent, Matamata So the answers are yes and yes! |
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![]() Thank you cause I stupidly assumed she was a he but just to be clear I meant the other one... Danielle Johnson (I had to look up her name. Duh.).
Which is his regular rider or does he not really have one? |
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![]() ![]() HIDDEN ASSET 3 g High Chaparral - Fragile Asset Breeder: BE & RW Punch Owner: BR Broomhead, GG Syndicate, Parsons Bloodstock, KL Syminton and Twelve Cheers Syndicate Trainer: Shaune Ritchie Jockey: Vinnie Colgan Starts: 5 Wins: 2 Seconds: 0 Thirds: 1 Earnings: $66,400 Major wins: Championship Stakes (G2) Last start: Avondale Guineas (14th) Best performance of the season: Championship Stakes (1st) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV_O_xMVlqA Season so far: 3rd Maiden 1st Maiden 1st Championship Stakes, beating Hot Pursuit and Yourein 6th Waikato Guineas behind Jimmy Choux 14th Avondale Guineas behind Icepin Pedigree: Very strong. He's another High Chaparral, and his dam is a Zabeel mare. He should love the 2400m of the Derby. Positives: - Showed loads of ability when he won a G2 race over 2100m at Ellerslie on Jan 1 - Ritchie trained Military Move to win the Derby last year - Colgan has ridden four Derby winners Negatives: - His last two races have been the two worst performances of his career, and no one can explain why. Current odds: 19-1 So can he win? If you had asked me this in January, I would have said yes. He's been as high as my second pick for the Derby in the past. But his last performance was just terrible. If he miraculously returns to his best, he could win this. But I don't see him turning it around that quickly. Predicted finish: 10th NIPPIN 3 c Pins - Wait A Minute Breeder: Waikato Stud Owner: EM Bourke, NA Bourke, AR Piercy, MI Eliason, JP Fleming and JA Washer Trainer: Allan Sharrock Jockey: Shane Scriven Starts: 7 Wins: 2 Seconds: 3 Thirds: 1 Earnings: $36,125 Last start: Rating 90 Best performance of the season: Conditions Race (1st) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8Yw_E1vT1M Season so far: 6th Maiden 1st Maiden 2nd 3yo 3rd 3yo 2nd Rating 70 1st Conditions Race 2nd Rating 90 Pedigree: A little bit questionable - Pins is a speed sire. But the dam is by a good stamina sire in Centaine, and she won over 2100m herself. Positives: - Rated very highly by his trainer, who has already won a Derby with Wahid in 2006. - Since his below-par debut, he hasn't run a bad race. Negatives: - Hasn't faced stakes-class horses yet - He probably should have beaten that Rating 90 field in his last start, so he's coming into the race off a slightly disappointing effort. Current odds: 25-1 So can he win? His trainer seems to think so, so you can't completely rule it out. But I'm a bit worried about the fact that he hasn't faced good-class opposition yet. The Derby is going to be a big step up for this colt. He'll need to find five or six lengths on his last performance. Predicted finish: 14th ![]() HISTORIAN 3 g Choisir - Cyclonic Breeder: Bledisloe Bloodstock Owner: Ngai Chun-Hung Trainer: Tony Pike & Mark Donoghue Jockey: Chad Ormsby Starts: 6 Wins: 2 Seconds: 2 Thirds: 1 Earnings: $32,125 Last start: Avondale Guineas (4th) Best performance of the season: Maiden (1st) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNbJA_nRqZI Season so far: 2nd Maiden 1st Maiden 1st Rating 70 2nd 3yo - a nose behind Banchee 3rd Waikato Guineas behind Jimmy Choux 4th Avondale Guineas behind Icepin Pedigree: He's by the great Australian sprinter Choisir, so there are some concerns here. The dam, Cyclonic, also has a speedy pedigree, and her only win was 1300m - that's a long way short of 2400m. I hear alarm bells. Positives: - This is a really, really talented horse - He's never run a bad race, and has faced some of the very best 3yos in NZ - Banchee, Jimmy Choux and Icepin won his last three races Negatives: - The distance is going to be a huge test for this guy, I think Current odds: 17-1 So can he win? If he gets the distance, yes, he could win this race. He has proven himself to be not far behind the likes of Jimmy Choux, Banchee and Icepin. But I'm really worried about the 2400m for Historian. His pedigree suggests that even trying it is lunacy. He's done 2000m and 2100m in his last two starts and performed well, but this is another step up. I think it's just too far for him. But he'll be a good horse over shorter distances next year. Predicted finish: 12th |
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![]() ![]() YIN YANG MASTER 3 g Fastnet Rock - Crazy Fling Breeder: Three Bridge Thoroughbreds Owner: BJ Bolton & T Li Trainer: John Sargent Jockey: Mark Du Plessis Starts: 9 Wins: 1 Seconds: 2 Thirds: 3 Earnings: $33,375 Last start: Avondale Guineas (8th) Best performance of the season: Great Northern Guineas (3rd) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGwzcGZvGf4 Season so far: 9th 3yo 7th Maiden 3rd Maiden 1st Maiden 2nd 3yo behind Raffles Knight 3rd Great Northern Guineas behind Jimmy Choux and Icepin 3rd 3yo behind Banchee and Historian 2nd Waikato Guineas behind Jimmy Choux 8th Avondale Guineas behind Icepin Pedigree: Fastnet Rock is a pretty speedy sire, but the dam is a daughter of Alysheba, so there should be a bit of stamina there. Plus, he just looks like a guy who can handle a distance - he's a big, powerful individual. I don't think there are any problems here. Positives: - Hardly ever runs a bad race - He's proven that he belongs in the best 3yo company - Mark Du Plessis in the saddle Negatives: - He keeps running good races without actually winning - just one win from 9 starts Current odds: 24-1 So can he win? I don't think so. He'll definitely run a good race, and I'm sure he'll finish in the first half, but I just don't see him winning this Derby. Jimmy Choux has beaten him twice in their two meetings, and I don't think he can turn the tables on him. I'm expecting a similar performance to the one he produced in the Avondale Guineas. Predicted finish: 8th ![]() RAFFLES KNIGHT 3 c Encosta De Lago - Lady Circles Breeder: Arch Of Gold Ltd & Moffatt Breeding and Racing Owner: Raffles Dancers Ltd Trainer: Stephen McKee Jockey: Leith Innes Starts: 5 Wins: 2 Seconds: 0 Thirds: 0 Earnings: $21,125 Last start: Avondale Guineas (6th) Best performance of the season: 3yo (1st) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEv6x-5HR0Q Season so far: 1st Maiden 1st 3yo 4th Great Northern Guineas behind Jimmy Choux 4th Rating 80 6th Avondale Guineas behind Icepin Pedigree: Very strong. Encosta De Lago is a terrific stamina sire. There should be no doubts at all about this horse's staying ability. Positives: - No bad races in his career - He's bred to be very good - Derby-winning jockey Leith Innes aboard Negatives: - After winning his first two starts, he's been beaten in his next three - He's still quite inexperienced and immature Current odds: 26-1 So can he win? He has a chance, but I think it's more likely that he'll run another very solid race and finish just behind the action. I believe he's a horse to watch next year. Predicted finish: 9th |
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![]() SIERRA NEVADA 3 g High Chaparral - Rata Breeder: EO Aitken Owner: JC & MA Thompson Trainer: Richard & Chris Otto Jockey: Jim Byrne Starts: 5 Wins: 2 Seconds: 0 Thirds: 1 Earnings: $15,325 Last start: Avondale Guineas (3rd) Best performance of the season: Avondale Guineas (3rd) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02cKpN-DRgY Season so far: 5th Maiden 4th Maiden 1st Maiden 1st Rating 70 3rd Avondale Guineas behind Icepin Pedigree: High Chaparral - that's about all that needs to be said. And his dam, Rata, won three races over distances up to 2200m. This guy is bred to run all day. Positives: - He's getting good at exactly the right time - each start has been better than the one before it - Very solid pedigree Negatives: - He was a maiden on Jan 28 - is this too much, too quickly? Current odds: 16-1 So can he win? He can, but I think it's unlikely. He came from absolutely nowhere, improving an enormous amount in a very short period of time. The trainers said they are a bit worried that the Derby might be a bit too soon for him, and I share that concern. He's going to be a very good horse, but I think this will be a learning curve. Having said that, I think he'll run a strong race and go close to finishing in the money. Predicted finish: 6th ON THE LEVEL 3 g Align - Springtime Romance Breeder: Highview Stud Owner: Sir Patrick Hogan, AJ Sutherland, AC Timpson & PJ Walker Trainer: Murray & Bjorn Baker Jockey: Michael Coleman Starts: 9 Wins: 2 Seconds: 3 Thirds: 0 Earnings: $46,475 Last start: Avondale Guineas (2nd) Best performance of the season: Maiden (1st) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKnTiClTQao Season so far: 2nd Maiden 1st Maiden 2nd Rating 70 1st Conditions Race 6th Great Northern Guineas 4th Waikato Guineas 2nd Avondale Guineas Pedigree: Quite speedy - Align is well known as a sire of sprinters. But On The Level has already performed well in two distance races, so it may not be a concern. Positives: - Two very good races in a row against tremendous opposition - He was doing his best work at the very end of the Avondale Guineas - Coleman has won the Derby twice, including aboard Xcellent in 2004 - The Bakers are having a great season with the 3yos they train - Lion Tamer, We Can Say It Now... Negatives: - His two victories were both in quite low-quality company - There's not much stamina in his pedigree Current odds: 18-1 So can he win? Yes, and quite a few people are picking him as a live longshot chance. But I think that lack of stamina in his pedigree might cause him some trouble. He's also had two gut-busting runs in very tough company. That might start to take its toll as the field turns for home in the Derby. Predicted finish: 11th YOUREIN 3 g Reset - It's You Breeder: DW Flower Owner: Sir Patrick Hogan, AJ Sutherland, AC Timpson & PJ Walker Trainer: John Sargent Jockey: Lisa Allpress Starts: 8 Wins: 1 Seconds: 0 Thirds: 3 Earnings: $41,400 Last start: Avondale Guineas (13th) Best performance of the season: Championship Stakes (3rd) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV_O_xMVlqA Season so far: 8th Maiden 3rd Maiden 1st 3yo (listed) 3rd Championship Stakes behind Hidden Asset 6th Karaka Mile behind Banchee 13th Avondale Guineas Pedigree: It's hard to say. Reset is a reasonably new sire. It's a bit of a weird pedigree, really. It's difficult to come to any sort of verdict about it. But this horse's owners know a lot about that sort of thing, so they must have liked what they saw when he went through the sale ring. Positives: - A listed stakes winner over 2100m at Ellerslie - Jockey Lisa Allpress is in the best form of her life - currently 2nd on the premiership - One of three runners in the race for trainer John Sargent Negatives: - It looks like he peaked in December/January - his form is going downhill Current odds: 40-1 So can he win? I don't think so. The Derby used to be run on Boxing Day, and I think if it was this time, he would have been one of the main chances. He was a good horse in December and January. But his performances have really gone downhill in the last couple of months. It would be a big surprise if he won. Predicted finish: 16th JETSET LAD 3 g Elusive City - Jetset Lass Breeder: Stewarts' Racehorse Syndicate Owner: CE & CJW Stewart Trainer: John Wheeler Jockey: Scott Galloway Starts: 10 Wins: 3 Seconds: 2 Thirds: 1 Earnings: $43,100 Last start: Avondale Guineas (7th) Best performance of the season: Wellington Stakes (2nd) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR0-ddZDfrI Season so far: 5th Rating 70 8th Rating 70 9th Wellington Guineas 3rd Rating 70 1st Rating 70 2nd 3yo 1st 3yo 2nd Wellington Stakes 7th Avondale Guineas Pedigree: Reasonably solid. Elusive City is a good sire, and his dam, Jetset Lass, wasn't far away when she ran 8th in the NZ Oaks in 2003. Positives: - A very good effort behind Jimmy Choux in the Wellington Stakes - Distance shouldn't be a problem Negatives: - Form is inconsistent - I was looking for a little more in the Avondale Guineas - Jockey Scott Galloway has never ridden at Ellerslie before - it's a tricky track to ride Current odds: 26-1 So can he win? My opinion is that he can't. He's a bit hot-and-cold, and what was by far his best performance of the season came on a track that was much wetter than Ellerslie is likely to be this weekend. And even though he ran well that day, Jimmy was clearly the better horse. I don't think it'll be Jetset Lad's day on Saturday. Predicted finish: 15th BETWEEN THE BEATS 3 g Golan - Whistling Jazz Breeder: CP & KR Russell Owner: GKV Holdings Ltd, MA Head & M Isaac Trainer: Jeff Lynds Jockey: Noel Harris Starts: 5 Wins: 1 Seconds: 0 Thirds: 1 Earnings: $8,600 Last start: Rating 80 (3rd) Best performance of the season: Maiden (1st) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igAyWOd4EKI Season so far: 4th 3yo 4th Maiden 9th Wellington Stakes 1st Maiden 3rd Rating 80 Pedigree: Not bad. Golan has been a successful sire, and has sired a few Derby contenders in the past. The dam, Whistling Jazz, won a race. Positives: - Only one really poor performance - Trained by Jeff Lynds, who is having a great streak - Vosne Romanee, Wall Street and Booming Negatives: - That one bad performance was his only start against stakes-quality horses - This is a really huge step up from Rating 80 grade Current odds: 60-1 So can he win? No offense to the horse or any of his connections, but I'm going to predict that this horse will finish in last place. Someone has to come 17th, and Between The Beats has the least impressive credentials in this field. Predicted finish: 17th Last edited by _ed_ : 03-02-2011 at 07:11 PM. |
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![]() LAST ONE!
And you might notice I still haven't picked a horse to finish 2nd... ![]() ENCOSTA DIABLO 3 c Encosta De Lago - Devil's Lair Breeder: Pencarrow Stud Owner: Te Akau Stud Trainer: Jason Bridgman Jockey: Opie Bosson Starts: 10 Wins: 4 Seconds: 1 Thirds: 0 Earnings: $73,575 Last start: Avondale Guineas (9th) Best performance of the season: Karaka Mile (fast-finishing 5th) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO-CDZOWe1Q Season so far: 1st 3yo 1st 3yo 4th Ray Coupland Stakes 5th New Zealand 2000 Guineas 5th 3yo 5th Karaka Mile (fast-finishing) 9th Avondale Guineas (unlucky and fast-finishing) Pedigree: The best in the field. He's by champion Australian sire Encosta De Lago. His dam is Devil's Lair, which makes him a half-brother to two Oaks winners - Vapour Trail and Santagostino. This pedigree, and his eye-catching conformation, saw him sell for one of the highest prices in the yearling sales of his year. Positives: - Sensational breeding - He hasn't run a bad race this season - A stakes-winner as a 2yo, so no doubting his ability - He's desperate for a step up in distance - Trained by Bridgman and ridden by Bosson - that combo seems to be working well with King's Rose! Negatives: - No wins since October Current odds: 15-1 So can he win? Yes. He's a beautifully bred and very highly talented galloper, ridden and trained by some of the best in NZ. There's no doubt he'll handle the distance. If it's not Jimmy's day on Saturday, it just might be Encosta's. Predicted finish: 2nd All done! That's the whole field. Thanks and congrats if you read all that! |
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Thank you for spending all this time... this is great and I've read through it twice (so far). Okay just for fun here's mine at this (kinda) early date (although it's realy not so early is it?)... 1. Jimmy ![]() 2. Icepin 3. Yin Yang Master 4. Banchee 5. Historian 6. Wisecrack 7. Hidden Asset 8. He's Remarkable 9. Encosta Diablo 10. Raffles Knight 11. Sierra Nevada Everyone else. ![]() Honestly, I can't wait! Last edited by my miss storm cat : 03-02-2011 at 03:22 PM. |
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![]() That looks like a very good list!
Ooh, BIG jockey news: Chris Munce can't make it over to ride Wisecrack anymore. Have a look at who they've got to replace him... http://www.nzracing.co.nz/Meetings/M...8383#raceLink9 ![]() He's never ridden in NZ before. Excited that I'm going to see him! |