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Old 02-23-2011, 03:19 PM
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The Hutcheson is a great betting race.
I think once you actually look, it wont be so great. The only other horse who I give a chance to is the Rick V from way back.
The track is a lot of speed though and they will have to run to beat the 1,3.
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Old 02-23-2011, 05:59 PM
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I think once you actually look, it wont be so great. The only other horse who I give a chance to is the Rick V from way back.
The track is a lot of speed though and they will have to run to beat the 1,3.
Crossbow, good luck. I'd like him alot more at a mile. he isn't a 7 furlong horse.

And I did look, but I let things digest before opinions. And those have sucked lately. I have done much much better just betting throughout the card and firing from the hip then having a plan and trying to execute it.
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:15 PM
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One opinion I have so far that if you are against To Honor and Serve off the layoff and strong possibility that he isn't 100%, Casper's Touch is very interesting to me. I was live for his last race and he galloped out strong after an impossible trip. While I consider Solis an anchor, he has been riding well this meet. Should get better fractions this time, and settle alot earlier 2nd off the shelf.

I just don't know how to feel about To Honor and Serve because those Payson works are super impressive if you go by the rule that the track is 2 second slow compared to a normal track.
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:38 PM
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I think once you actually look, it wont be so great. The only other horse who I give a chance to is the Rick V from way back.
The track is a lot of speed though and they will have to run to beat the 1,3.
Why can't you just say the horse's name? Seriously, it's irritating as fuc1<.
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Old 02-23-2011, 07:16 PM
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There are 3 horses in the Hutcheson I'm a fan of but, looking at the pp's, I can't see any of them (or anyone) beating Manicero.
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Old 02-23-2011, 09:39 PM
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There are 3 horses in the Hutcheson I'm a fan of but, looking at the pp's, I can't see any of them (or anyone) beating Manicero.


They are quite a few that could win the Hutch but, Manicero is not one of them.
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Old 02-23-2011, 09:48 PM
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They are quite a few that could win the Hutch but, Manicero is not one of them.
Oh whew thank God you posted this before I was able to actually play him.

There's only a 9 in 10 chance of being right as to who won't win so, while I appreciate your concern (since you obviously have a crystal ball), why not just post your pick?
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:03 PM
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Oh whew thank God you posted this before I was able to actually play him.

There's only a 9 in 10 chance of being right as to who won't win so, while I appreciate your concern (since you obviously have a crystal ball), why not just post your pick?
I usually wait for things like scratches and actual odds before I make my selection.
Capping 2 days before the race is for eliminating horses like Manicero that can't win.
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:13 PM
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I usually wait for things like scratches and actual odds before I make my selection.
Capping 2 days before the race is for eliminating horses like Manicero that can't win.
To be fair though sometimes capping 2 days before any given race is because you know you won't have time on raceday.

I won't. I want to play Gulfstream and that was the first one I looked at fully expecting to like who I assumed would do well (and who I no longer think will). A couple of them are vastly overrated.

I look forward to seeing your pick.
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:27 PM
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Why can't you just say the horse's name? Seriously, it's irritating as fuc1<.
Put him on ignore.....and/or please don't quote him.
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Old 02-23-2011, 09:19 PM
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Put him on ignore.....and/or please don't quote him.
You can't escape him. He even made an appearance on the Zenyatta website with this gem, "@Hooves- not cool at all. I work with special needs people and have been accused of being one many times."
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Old 02-23-2011, 09:25 PM
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I saw someone post that here earlier in the day - I just assumed it was IC trolling as PG '85 on that site.
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Old 02-23-2011, 09:33 PM
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I saw someone post that here earlier in the day - I just assumed it was IC trolling as PG '85 on that site.
No, you must share the same bloodlines to say something as stupid as that.
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Old 02-25-2011, 11:23 PM
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Davona Dale
1. Oh Carole
2. Dancinginherdreams
3. R Heat Lightning
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1. Travelin Man
2. Manicero
3. Leave of Absence
4. Razmataz

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I will be at Gulfstream today and am really excited about the racing program.

Are there any "can't misses" today? I believe we'll see competitive racing throughout the day.

Good luck to all on a great day of thoroughbred racing !!
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Old 02-26-2011, 06:59 AM
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Old 02-26-2011, 08:08 AM
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I will be at Gulfstream today and am really excited about the racing program.

Are there any "can't misses" today?
I believe we'll see competitive racing throughout the day.

Good luck to all on a great day of thoroughbred racing !!
I don't know what sort of a price you'll get but Achaemenes in the first was thoroughly brutalized in his last, is half to Unrivaled Belle and drops to Mdn 50. He doesn't need to beat much in here, and with a clean trip looks pretty bulletproof.
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