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Old 02-19-2011, 03:22 PM
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Repubs trying to union bust so they can control voter turnout and financial contributions to 2012 election
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This is an unusual take. So you are saying that if the unions are effectively busted then the former members wont vote or contribute in the 2012 elections?
It's a pretty common idea, considering all the GOP Governors came out of their annual conference with the order to do it. Watch what every other GOP Governor is doing. It's the cover of deficit (deficits are real) but it's union-busting plain and clear.

With the Citizen's United ruling, private citizen contributions hardly matter any more. Who controls the money has a huge influence over elections.

Of the top ten political contributors, 7 are corporate Republican, and 3 are corporate Democratic. The 3 Democratic ones are the unions these GOP governors are trying to break up. Everyone knows unions historically vote and support Democratic.

Break up the unions, break up dues paying, get the money out of the hands of the unions, unions cannot contribute to candidates, the GOP financially controls the elections with no opposition.

Witness the Koch brothers financing and bussing in their Tea Party to counter-demonstrate.

Walker clearly isn't interested in the budget deficit here - the union has said it will gladly give up benefits, has no problem with Walker's desires if Walker will talk to them, negotiate and maintain collective bargaining rights.

Walker has completely refused. It's all about union busting. Not budget.
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Old 02-19-2011, 06:02 PM
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It's a pretty common idea, considering all the GOP Governors came out of their annual conference with the order to do it. Watch what every other GOP Governor is doing. It's the cover of deficit (deficits are real) but it's union-busting plain and clear.

With the Citizen's United ruling, private citizen contributions hardly matter any more. Who controls the money has a huge influence over elections.

Of the top ten political contributors, 7 are corporate Republican, and 3 are corporate Democratic. The 3 Democratic ones are the unions these GOP governors are trying to break up. Everyone knows unions historically vote and support Democratic.

Break up the unions, break up dues paying, get the money out of the hands of the unions, unions cannot contribute to candidates, the GOP financially controls the elections with no opposition.

Witness the Koch brothers financing and bussing in their Tea Party to counter-demonstrate.

Walker clearly isn't interested in the budget deficit here - the union has said it will gladly give up benefits, has no problem with Walker's desires if Walker will talk to them, negotiate and maintain collective bargaining rights.

Walker has completely refused. It's all about union busting. Not budget.
Yeah it is an elaborate ruse. It is hardly a secret that unions are not GOP friendly but that doesn't mean that this isn't chiefly about the budget deficit. Killing the unions is just a nice little party gift.

And the idea that the unions financial contributions somehow "balance" the playing field is laughable.
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Old 02-20-2011, 02:20 PM
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Yeah it is an elaborate ruse. It is hardly a secret that unions are not GOP friendly but that doesn't mean that this isn't chiefly about the budget deficit. Killing the unions is just a nice little party gift.
It's no "elaborate ruse", it's well know and publicly stated. It's what the Republican Governors Association (heavily funded by the Koch brothers) have stated since their last annual meeting what their goals are for this election period. Look at Chris Christie, and Ohio.

Union busting - taking away collective bargaining rights - doesn't affect the budget at all. Zero.

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And the idea that the unions financial contributions somehow "balance" the playing field is laughable.
The Republicans far outweigh the Democrats in corporate election sponsorship. Out of the top ten corporate political contributors in 2008 - 2010, 7 are Republican, and 3 were Democratic. Those 3 were unions.

And most realize that with the Citizens United ruling passing, it's only corporate campaign spending that matters now.
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Old 02-20-2011, 05:09 PM
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The Republicans far outweigh the Democrats in corporate election sponsorship. Out of the top ten corporate political contributors in 2008 - 2010, 7 are Republican, and 3 were Democratic. Those 3 were unions.

And most realize that with the Citizens United ruling passing, it's only corporate campaign spending that matters now.
I guess the Democrats better be a little more business friendly
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