My theory and feelings on Polytrack

Over/under on lengths beaten by Asi Siempre if she actually goes in the Distaff, I'm setting it at 22.

Keeneland's poly surface sure has a knack for making horses look like they're running in a skating rink. Brahms Lullaby was sliding all over the stretch in the last race.

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Keeneland's poly surface sure has a knack for making horses look like they're running in a skating rink. Brahms Lullaby was sliding all over the stretch in the last race.

Pillow, jocks and trainers are already saying that many, if not most horses who are true dirt horses don't grab it and change the way that they run.
At this time you won't read any harsh comments, because they fear repercussions by the gestapo who is pumping this stuff up if they voice it.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Pillow, jocks and trainers are already saying that many, if not most horses who are true dirt horses don't grab it and change the way that they run.
At this time you won't read any harsh comments, because they fear repercussions by the gestapo who is pumping this stuff up if they voice it.

I know if I were in their shoes I would do the exact same thing. They risk too much speaking out against this madness.

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I know if I were in their shoes I would do the exact same thing. They risk too much speaking out against this madness.

Catch a few after the races at dinner after a ****tail or two after a nice horse they ran just got beat by some mule, they'll speak out plenty. Just can't tell the press.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Catch a few after the races at dinner after a ****tail or two after a nice horse they ran just got beat by some mule, they'll speak out plenty. Just can't tell the press.

co cktail

Originally Posted by oracle80

Catch a few after the races at dinner after a ****tail or two after a nice horse they ran just got beat by some mule, they'll speak out plenty. Just can't tell the press.

I guess it's good for people who like playing the Schrupp button. That's about the only way you would've cashed the Pick 4 today. Jesus. A River Downs mule takes an allowance at Keeneland.

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I guess it's good for people who like playing the Schrupp button. That's about the only way you would've cashed the Pick 4 today. Jesus. A River Downs mule takes an allowance at Keeneland.

How anyone can complain about a $154k pick 4 payout is beyond me...

Originally Posted by oracle80

Pillow, jocks and trainers are already saying that many, if not most horses who are true dirt horses don't grab it and change the way that they run.
At this time you won't read any harsh comments, because they fear repercussions by the gestapo who is pumping this stuff up if they voice it.

Yeah, I hate to be the condescnding media here, but I have to much pride to sit back and alloow everybody to overhype this stuff like its the greatest thing we've ever invented in thsi sport....it makes me sick everytime I hear it and it wouldn't be fair to the horse racing fans on this forum is i didn't give my views on it....

I hate to be the devil's advocate and no I'm not trying to 'rock the boat', but I really don't like this stuff.....can we just go back to running on the dirt, please?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

carry over.....good luck..

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Yeah, I hate to be the condescnding media here, but I have to much pride to sit back and alloow everybody to overhype this stuff like its the greatest thing we've ever invented in thsi sport....it makes me sick everytime I hear it and it wouldn't be fair to the horse racing fans on this forum is i didn't give my views on it....

I hate to be the devil's advocate and no I'm not trying to 'rock the boat', but I really don't like this stuff.....can we just go back to running on the dirt, please?

Joel you speak to trainers and jocks as well, I'm sure you have heard plenty negative about it, off the record of course.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

lets not call somebodys horse a mule just because he ran well.....if you had sold this one or had some involvment..you would sing a much diffrent tune....hats off to the owner and trainer...they took a shot and it payed off..

Originally Posted by oracle80

Joel you speak to trainers and jocks as well, I'm sure you have heard plenty negative about it, off the record of course.

Its funny you say that....my experience has been that the bad trainers (from a percentage standpoint) love it and the good trainers (won't mention names) hate it...and that is based on a PRETTY SIZABLE sample...that is the one pattern I have seen, and the OBVIOUS reason that pattern exists is because the bad trainers now have the equalizer over the good trainers because nobody knows which horses will run on it or not - so the bad trainers have a chance now....

The sad thing is that all of the good trainers are miffed by it....they don't understand why their horses don't like it because a couple fo them (who are VERY well-known guys) have told me that they are completely confused because they're horses work brilliantly on it and then they flop when they actually run on it in a race....AND BELIEVE ME when I say that these two or three guys KNOW when their horses are ready to fire and are some of the best trainers in the country IMO.....

Its a damn shame, man....

Originally Posted by oracle80

Over/under on lengths beaten by Asi Siempre if she actually goes in the Distaff, I'm setting it at 22.

Yeah, I like her and I like her sire, but she'll get drowned in the Distaff....

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Over/under on lengths beaten by Asi Siempre if she actually goes in the Distaff, I'm setting it at 22.

She'll only lose by 11, they'll all be plodding home in the end.