The 3-year-old males

Danzig · #1 02-06-2011, 06:49 PM

my talk about mott was in response to betsy saying she had complete faith in him heading to the derby. i don't care who the trainer is, i don't agree with only two starts for a horse in that amount of time. and they wonder why a horse can't withstand the grueling three races in five weeks; it's because they have no bottom. they aren't tested going in. and if they can't withstand what it takes to run in those races, they have no business being there in the first place. people bemoan the lack of a tc winner in years; well i think a big part of that is the change in training. horses are asked to go too long at two, they have no steady progression in distance at three. they don't run enough early on, they don't get strong enough, and they can't last.

Dahoss · #2 02-06-2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

my talk about mott was in response to betsy saying she had complete faith in him heading to the derby. i don't care who the trainer is, i don't agree with only two starts for a horse in that amount of time. and they wonder why a horse can't withstand the grueling three races in five weeks; it's because they have no bottom. they aren't tested going in. and if they can't withstand what it takes to run in those races, they have no business being there in the first place. people bemoan the lack of a tc winner in years; well i think a big part of that is the change in training. horses are asked to go too long at two, they have no steady progression in distance at three. they don't run enough early on, they don't get strong enough, and they can't last.

You are making entirely too much sense in this thread.

#3 02-06-2011, 07:05 PM

Is it true that Uncle Mo's first start of the year is the Tampa Bay Derby?

If so, that is ridiculous. Just retire the horse now.

Danzig · #4 02-06-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Is it true that Uncle Mo's first start of the year is the Tampa Bay Derby?

If so, that is ridiculous. Just retire the horse now.

RockHardTen1985 · #5 02-06-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Is it true that Uncle Mo's first start of the year is the Tampa Bay Derby?

If so, that is ridiculous. Just retire the horse now.

Tampa Bay-Wood-Kentucky.
Its been that way for a while now.

#6 02-06-2011, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Tampa Bay-Wood-Kentucky.
Its been that way for a while now.

That's weak s.hit. He might as well burn 10,000,000 vitamin waters in a massive bonfire.

RockHardTen1985 · #7 02-06-2011, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

That's weak s.hit. He might as well burn 10,000,000 vitamin waters in a massive bonfire.

I like it.
And not because I love UM.
He should kill the Tampa Bay Derby and win the Wood for fun. This crop is deep, everyone knows it. He goes 2-2 this year, off of last year he could be 4-5 or less in the Derby. I would use a number of horses trying to beat him going 10f. A lot of the good horses so far, have a lot of early zip. Just like UM, he could get cooked Belamy Road style. Just to close to a fast pace.

Danzig · #8 02-06-2011, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I like it.
And not because I love UM.
He should kill the Tampa Bay Derby and win the Wood for fun. This crop is deep, everyone knows it. He goes 2-2 this year, off of last year he could be 4-5 or less in the Derby. I would use a number of horses trying to beat him going 10f. A lot of the good horses so far, have a lot of early zip. Just like UM, he could get cooked Belamy Road style. Just to close to a fast pace.

it's not even mid-february, and you're already declaring this a deep crop?! gimme a break. some of last years top two year olds haven't even made their first start yet, plenty of 3 yo's have yet to show what they can do. others have yet to show they're not going to maintain last years form. just knock it off already. no one has a good idea yet about this bunch of three year olds. based on what are you saying it's a good crop? works? cause the trainer said so? can't be based on races. can't be based on one top three year old taking on another, it hasn't happened yet.