BC Juvie: Arazi or Uncle Mo?

King Glorious · #1 02-05-2011, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Visually, perhaps.

Really though, no one in that race really did fire that day, and besides Bertrando, the field was pretty weak.

My perceived bias aside, I thought Mo's race was better.

Welcome back btw.

Thank you. I guess time will tell us how good the field was that Mo beat too. I think that after the Arazi race, I felt that there was absolutely no way that he could lose the Derby. I think that during those years, we had a chance to see more of the 2yos and what they could do in stakes competition so we had a better line on them. These days, they race so little and start so late that it's harder to get a line on them. Off the top of my head, it seems like more and more, the horses that turn out to be the best 3yos aren't even known until Dec-Feb. Smarty Jones wasn't considered near the top of his class until Oaklawn. Flower Alley the next year emerged at Oaklawn. Bernardini came into prominence in the spring. Curlin and Big Brown, same thing. Summer Bird. The point I am getting at is that I thought that Arazi's was better but was also against much more accomplished competition which makes it even more impressive.

Sightseek · #2 02-05-2011, 09:09 AM

The first Derby I ever watched was 1992 and the programming was all Arazi-this Arazi-that. I don't think they even mentioned another horse so I was all confused how he could possibly loose.

King Glorious · #3 02-05-2011, 02:08 PM

To this day, I'm still convinced that Arazi didn't lose. His connections failed him but he didn't lose. I always thought that was a pretty weak argument on my behalf.........until 2010.......when I learned that you really do win when you lose.

Indian Charlie · #4 02-05-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

To this day, I'm still convinced that Arazi didn't lose. His connections failed him but he didn't lose. I always thought that was a pretty weak argument on my behalf.........until 2010.......when I learned that you really do win when you lose.

Me too.

I am also convinced of one of two things. Either his trainer sabotaged Arazi to prove a point, or Arazi had huge soundness issues and the trainer really was trying to protect the horse.

I have no way of knowing which is the case, but being the cynic that I am....