Hammerin Hank

Lou Holtz would be a great replacement.

Guys I'm not usually known around here as a pillar of sympathy, but could we maybe stop bashing the sick guy? Its not like hes a rapist, he gives bad horse picks.
I do indeed have standards. They are VERY ,VERY, LOW, but I have them.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Guys I'm not usually known around here as a pillar of sympathy, but could we maybe stop bashing the sick guy? Its not like hes a rapist, he gives bad horse picks.
I do indeed have standards. They are VERY ,VERY, LOW, but I have them.

I won't bash him simply because if I were in his situation I'd give bad picks as well. What benefit does he get out of giving winning tickets? Does anyone think ESPN execs would notice or care?

More power to Hank. Anyone who bets picks based on his or tvg/hrtv analysts picks deserve to lose.

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I won't bash him simply because if I were in his situation I'd give bad picks as well. What benefit does he get out of giving winning tickets? Does anyone think ESPN execs would notice or care?

More power to Hank. Anyone who bets picks based on his or tvg/hrtv analysts picks deserve to lose.

Hes nowhere near as bad as the smarmy "ex trainers who wanna wear polyester jackets and take orders from 20 something year old kids experts" who sit on TVG and explain everything and point out what all the trainers WHO COULD HACK IT AND STILL ARE TRAINING FOR A LIVING WITH CLIENTS WHO SEND THEM HORSES are doing wrong.
The most nauseating of these events being when AA's trainer announced he stopped at Oaklawn because he had a lung infection and they laughed and called it an excuse. Yeah, those guys in the blazers are the goods.
You wanna get on someone, get on those guys. At least Hank doesn't claim he could do a better job at training them and annouce where they have erred.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Hes nowhere near as bad as the smarmy "ex trainers who wanna wear polyester jackets and take orders from 20 something year old kids experts" who sit on TVG and explain everything and point out what all the trainers WHO COULD HACK IT AND STILL ARE TRAINING FOR A LIVING WITH CLIENTS WHO SEND THEM HORSES are doing wrong.
The most nauseating of these events being when AA's trainer announced he stopped at Oaklawn because he had a lung infection and they laughed and called it an excuse. Yeah, those guys in the blazers are the goods.
You wanna get on someone, get on those guys. At least Hank doesn't claim he could do a better job at training them and annouce where they have erred.

I agree 100%. What's hilarious is one of those "analysts" had incredible stock as a trainer and couldn't hack it. Why he was hired is beyond me. One of his excuses for quitting is he didn't like getting up in the morning. WTF? Did he not know that was a requirement before he started?

[pmayjr]

Cunningham,
Moss seriously was open about not liking Hank? Hmmm... Hnk isn't very good, and it's sometimes a reflection on me. Like me, Hank likes to pick longshots. And so if I found out he picked the same horses as me, I shopuld just rip up my tix lol.

I just figured maybe he wasn't doing horse racing coverage last Sat, because of football on Sun. Doesn't he still help out ESPN NFL pregame, doing pregame and psost game coverage of certain games (especially if Miami is playing a home game?)?

Originally Posted by pmayjr

Cunningham,
Moss seriously was open about not liking Hank? Hmmm... Hnk isn't very good, and it's sometimes a reflection on me. Like me, Hank likes to pick longshots. And so if I found out he picked the same horses as me, I shopuld just rip up my tix lol.

I just figured maybe he wasn't doing horse racing coverage last Sat, because of football on Sun. Doesn't he still help out ESPN NFL pregame, doing pregame and psost game coverage of certain games (especially if Miami is playing a home game?)?

I thought so but Miami was on the road at NY last Saturday and he was in the Calder press box firing away......

Originally Posted by Cardus

Could you imagine Lou Holtz as a trainer? How would his poormouthing of his own horses sound?

He'd train a Grade 1 level horse, let's say Bernardini because he is on everyone's minds these days, and say before the Breeders' Cup Classic, "I'm scared to death of Ball Four."

You missed the obvious pep talk he would give them!! Remember back in 1990 when the Irish were going to play the undefeated number one team in a bowl and the cameras caught him in a private meeting with the team saying " I promise you!!! They will quit!!!!" They did indeed quit.
Can't you just see him before the race? " I promise you!!!!! When they hit the eigth pole, he will quit!!!!"

Originally Posted by oracle80

You missed the obvious pep talk he would give them!! Remember back in 1990 when the Irish were going to play the undefeated number one team in a bowl and the cameras caught him in a private meeting with the team saying " I promise you!!! They will quit!!!!" They did indeed quit.
Can't you just see him before the race? " I promise you!!!!! When they hit the eigth pole, he will quit!!!!"

Lets remember a little further back when Holtz coached the New York Football Jets. He tried to give them a pep talk and they laughed him out of the locker room. Holtz had a great stint in the pro's. 3-10. He beat the Buffalo Bills twice (2-12) and the Tampa Bay Bucanneers (0-14). Crazy Lou then found out college was his gig.

So as a trainer, I would not trust him in any Graded Stakes.

Originally Posted by Cardus

Wasn't that against Colorado, when he also said that it was used to scoring a lot of points, and if the Buffs didn't, they'd quit? Didn't Colorado win that game, though?

I loved the 1/8th pole comment, too!

Or what about this pep talk? "I promise you, as soon as he sets foot on the polytrack, it's over!!! He won't run a lick against you!!"

That was it, they killed them.