Founding fathers liked taxed government health care

[dellinger63]

BTW what was the tax % of income that caused our country to fight for independency? Wouldn't that have been a far more appropriate statement regarding the founding fathers rather some BS about a 1% tax on sailors? Good actually lame effort though. Landslide LMAO

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

BTW what was the tax % of income that caused our country to fight for independency? Wouldn't that have been a far more appropriate statement regarding the founding fathers rather some BS about a 1% tax on sailors? Good actually lame effort though. Landslide LMAO

Wow. You still don't understand why this thread was posted. Did you read the first post? You are unable to comprehend the words?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Wow. You still don't understand why this thread was posted. Did you read the first post? You are unable to comprehend the words?

You're a fool. You titled the thread "Founding Fathers liked taxed Government Health Care." and then post a story about a 1% tax on private seaman because of the risks involved in their jobs, bringing in diseases etc. If they 'liked' it so much they would have surely expanded the program to include all? No?

Even giving you the benefit of the doubt, if in fact they did like it, they didn't after trying it with the seaman.

Nice try again though.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

You're a fool.

No, Dell, you're the fool. The subject of the thread was the constitutionality of government involvement - as seen from the point of view of the founders - in health care.

Not how the details of 1% tax on seamen compares to the provisions in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, Dell, you're the fool. The subject of the thread was the constitutionality of government involvement - as seen from the point of view of the founders - in health care.

Not how the details of 1% tax on seamen compares to the provisions in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

Yea always in the details. BTW the private sailors were treated at Fed run hospitals not private. So again all in the details. Keep trying...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Yea always in the details. BTW the private sailors were treated at Fed run hospitals not private. So again all in the details. Keep trying...

Tell me, Dell - do you think it's constitutional for the government to mandate health care and collect money to pay for it?

Some Tea Bagger types scream it's unconstitutional, and the founding fathers never would stand for it. In fact, lawsuits have been filed against the PPACA.

Congress Passes Socialized Medicine and Mandates Health Insurance -In 1798

The ink was barely dry on the PPACA when the first of many lawsuits to block the mandated health insurance provisions of the law was filed in a Florida District Court.

The pleadings, in part, read -

The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United States to mandate, either directly or under threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal residents have qualifying health care coverage.

State of Florida, et al. vs. HHS

It turns out, the Founding Fathers would beg to disagree.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Tell me, Dell - do you think it's constitutional for the government to mandate health care and collect money to pay for it?

Some Tea Bagger types scream it's unconstitutional, and the founding fathers never would stand for it.

Sure you can mandate health care and collect money. The problem lies in the fact private, for-profit, entities are the insurer and care giver. Unless the Fed takes over the entire system then no it's unconstitutional IMO.

Would it be constitutional for the government to mandate savings and require say 10% of income go into privately invested mutual funds approved by the Fed or face penalty?

Those who either don't have the means or are severely in debt will be subsidized by those who have been paying their bills and will be given contributions? I think the Founding Fathers are rolling over in their graves and spinning faster.