Dry Martini has a retirement plan

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

What you fail to realize is that those of us who post these stories care whether it is Dry Martini or a horse who never earned a dime on the racetrack. Most of us who post in this thread and others probably follow (and donate to) the TRF and other rescue organizations and either own an OTTB, know someone who does or ride them. Dry Martini is a recognizable name to anyone who follows the sport - it is a horse that most people have some sort of connection with and therefore someone thought it would be threadworthy. It doesn't make that horse any more important than the horse struggling to break his maiden at Mountaineer.

You of course, would post something against any story.

Come now why in the world does someone (owners) need to create a story about the retirement of a horse? How many horses get retired daily without fanfare?

I like you care about the future of retired animals. I don't necessarily think that a horses successful retirement is anything more then being human with a beast. I give a lot of extra credit to owners who go the extra yard to make sure their horses are well provided for, I cant image Satish likes spending 5k on something that needs to be rescued and is worthless. Owners like Sanaan have to protect their name (Padua) you think he gives a fcuk about the horse? I don't.

Is claiming/buying a horse a lifetime committment to a horses welfare? It's a very difficult issue. The ones that make you 1.3mil are a lot easier to care for then the ones that dont.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Come now why in the world does someone (owners) need to create a story about the retirement of a horse? How many horses get retired daily without fanfare?

Um, because people care to know what happened?

We get it Freddy, you don't care. Is it really necessary to be so passive aggressive everytime someone wants to post something they care about?

[richard]

Horse racing is best served to mandate responsibility for a racer's retirement . I agree with the owner of Dry Martini .

[my miss storm cat]

Freddy you keep talking about how much this horse has made and it's making me wonder something...

I'm not an owner and have no idea but is 1.3 million really a huge amount in the scheme of things?

I mean he's 8 now, right?

Chances are he's not halfway through his life so taking into account all the expenses he'll continue to incur it's not like he won the Dubai World Cup here.

It's a hell of a lot of money, I know, but still... it's a big commitment.

I just wanted to add that as I agre with everything Sightseek has said and second it (all).

Oh yeah and Rudy you were asking earlier who should be responsible?

I don't have the answer but hopefully more and more horses will have someone at some point in their career who will step up.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Freddy you keep talking about how much this horse has made and it's making me wonder something...

I'm not an owner and have no idea but is 1.3 million really a huge amount in the scheme of things?

I mean he's 8 now, right?

Chances are he's not halfway through his life so taking into account all the expenses he'll continue to incur it's not like he won the Dubai World Cup here.

It's a hell of a lot of money, I know, but still... it's a big commitment.

I just wanted to add that as I agre with everything Sightseek has said and second it (all).

Oh yeah and Rudy you were asking earlier who should be responsible?

I don't have the answer but hopefully more and more horses will have someone at some point in their career who will step up.

How many horses win 1.3 mil? It's not a lot of money if you are the Aga Khan. I think you all totally missed the point. How could they not take care of the horse? I am stupidfied its a friggin topic. Congrats the owners they are seeing there horse is cared for..

[randallscott35]

Freddy,

How much money should a horse have to make to avoid the meat truck? 200k? 500k? Inquiring minds want to know.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Freddy,

How much money should a horse have to make to avoid the meat truck? 200k? 500k? Inquiring minds want to know.

Meat truck? Randall this is not the friggin point at all. I am at odds with slaughtering horses and very wishy washy on the subject. In a perfect world I would have super humane ways of destroying horses mandated and allow slaughter. That just isnt ever likely so I tend to be more against slaughter then for it. I just think you should be able to feed your family whatever you want and can afford. Why should someone tell me what I can and can't eat.

The point of the story is that the owners should just shut up and take care of the horse. He made them a ton period.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by freddymo

How many horses win 1.3 mil? It's not a lot of money if you are the Aga Khan. I think you all totally missed the point. How could they not take care of the horse? I am stupidfied its a friggin topic. Congrats the owners they are seeing there horse is cared for..

Respectfully, I think your're the one missing it.

[Rudeboyelvis]

I wasn't asking who should be responsible; it was more a rhetorical question because the term "Owners" is bandied about in all of these stories like it's a clear case, when in reality there are typically many, many owners in a gelding's lifetime.

This particular case is quite the exception; not the rule.



"should" and "will" are semantics - personally don't believe you should own horses if you cannot provide care for them or place them in a suitable environment after their career - but I, and this is just me- draw that line once a horse is taken off me.

If I claim a horse and lose it 10 days later, should I feel as though I should be held accountable to pay the way for this horse the rest of his life after racing?

I can tell you that I have personally placed every horse I've ever had that was in my care when it's career ended.

These include horses purchased from the sales, horses I've claimed and horses that were bought and never even made it to the track.

I know where each of them are and can visit them anytime I choose. And do.

The ones claimed away? I still have a soft spot in my heart for them, but they are not mine, thus not my responsibility.

In fact if every "owner" adopted that model, there would be a whole lot less of an issue.

[my miss storm cat]

Rudy I don't know if the greater percentage of owners are like you or not.

I hope that they are, but...

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

I wasn't asking who should be responsible; it was more a rhetorical question because the term "Owners" is bandied about in all of these stories like it's a clear case, when in reality there are typically many, many owners in a gelding's lifetime.

This particular case is quite the exception; not the rule.



"should" and "will" are semantics - personally don't believe you should own horses if you cannot provide care for them or place them in a suitable environment after their career - but I, and this is just me- draw that line once a horse is taken off me.

If I claim a horse and lose it 10 days later, should I feel as though I should be held accountable to pay the way for this horse the rest of his life after racing?

I can tell you that I have personally placed every horse I've ever had that was in my care when it's career ended.

These include horses purchased from the sales, horses I've claimed and horses that were bought and never even made it to the track.

I know where each of them are and can visit them anytime I choose. And do.

The ones claimed away? I still have a soft spot in my heart for them, but they are not mine, thus not my responsibility.

In fact if every "owner" adopted that model, there would be a whole lot less of an issue.

Exactly well put!

[AeWingnut]

I think the story brings attention to rescue / retirement operations for horses. The self aggrandizement issue is something imagined by super critical internetards.

Dust on the Bottle made Glenn and Sharon Hild a ton of money and

http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/3117/AR/US/

so I applaud the Nyrens

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by richard

Horse racing is best served to mandate responsibility for a racer's retirement . I agree with the owner of Dry Martini .

What does that mean you should escrow dollars for a horses retirement upon you taking ownership? Maybe we should have horse support courts that make sure you make your horse support retirement payments or you go to jail? Obviously I agree it is VERY human to provide for your animals welfare. BUT it isn't a perfect world and horse is still a horse. If you have it like some you can send people to pick up rescues that you bred and lost touch with like Sanaan. Is that really realistic for 95% of horse owners?