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[freddymo]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

What Guerrero is doing is making what guys like Dutrow and Wolfson do seem like child's play. I know Philly park is a bit of a dump and the racing there isn't much, but come on....to let a guy like this continue to do what he is doing? Pretty sad on Philly Park's part.

The guy is stealing. Pletcher's horses are in the money 52% of the time. the very best of the cheaters are in the high 50's maybe low 60's.. Juan Carlos is 72% that is insane.. Parx's purses are terriffic so even if it a hole in the ground for racing it still offers a place to race a horse that isnt very fast and make a buck.. Juan carlos is just stealing and nobody cares

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by freddymo

The guy is stealing. Pletcher's horses are in the money 52% of the time. the very best of the cheaters are in the high 50's maybe low 60's.. Juan Carlos is 72% that is insane.. Parx's purses are terriffic so even if it a hole in the ground for racing it still offers a place to race a horse that isnt very fast and make a buck.. Juan carlos is just stealing and nobody cares

I can't figure out who should get the "Best Cheater" Eclipse for 2010. Either Guerrero, or Mike Chambers at Turf Paradise. It is way too close to call. Chambers is 30 for 50 at the meet last I checked...winners, not in the money.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I can't figure out who should get the "Best Cheater" Eclipse for 2010. Either Guerrero, or Mike Chambers at Turf Paradise. It is way too close to call. Chambers is 30 for 50 at the meet last I checked...winners, not in the money.

Not sure why anyone would want to race or bet Turf paradise. I see john Sherriffs had 84 starts for the year? Is training his hobby or career?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Not sure why anyone would want to race or bet Turf paradise. I see john Sherriffs had 84 starts for the year? Is training his hobby or career?

Now we know why he didn't travel with Zenyatta. There is no way to oversee such a huge operation from the road.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Not sure why anyone would want to race or bet Turf paradise. I see john Sherriffs had 84 starts for the year? Is training his hobby or career?

Yet there are people voting for him as Trainer of the Year.

Too funny.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Yet there are people voting for him as Trainer of the Year.

Too funny.

You have to understand that training Zenyatta was very involved.

[Sightseek]

Who else should get it -- Pletcher?

[freddymo]

Pletcher is a terriffic trainer so are a lot of guys that play in the "grayground" just because you know how to ....... doesnt mean you cant train. It's the guys that cant train that win like crazy that drives me nutz.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Who else should get it -- Pletcher?

How about Jerry Hollendorfer? In an era where other leading trainers don't run their horses, his handling of Blind Luck's throwback campaign was an anomoly among current training trends. Add in the fact that he had a Breeders' Cup winner (Dakota Phone) and trained Tuscan Evening, arguably the top (or certainly no worse than second) North American-based turf female prior to her untimely death from his type of stable is pretty good stuff.

Pletcher's handling of Eskendereya and the Life At Ten fiasco would be disqualifying in my book.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I can't figure out who should get the "Best Cheater" Eclipse for 2010. Either Guerrero, or Mike Chambers at Turf Paradise. It is way too close to call. Chambers is 30 for 50 at the meet last I checked...winners, not in the money.

He's just lucky is all. How dare you