12/26 (SA): Malibu, La Brea (G1's); Beaufort (G2); CA Champion (R)

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

It's not semantics. The results of today do not represent a speed favoring track. A fast track does not necessarily mean a speed favoring track. You seem to be confusing the two.

I think you should go back and watch the races, especially the ones where you think speed was carried.

Do you think the track played equally fairly to all running styles today?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Riot

Do you think the track played equally fairly to all running styles today?

I have only seen each race twice, but at this point yes. A horse like Thirtyfirststreet couldn't win on a speed favoring track. Horses that were 8th and 9th early in the La Brea ran 2-3 in the race.

[Riot]

Then we disagree on how the track was playing.

We agree in that I also mentioned Thirtyfirststreet as a closer (who did close) but I feel the track changed very quickly into the stakes. Was it like Keeneland dirt? Heck no. We'll see what the figure guys do with it.

I did think the paths seemed to play very fairly inside to out, and it is amazing what great condition the track was in, considering all the rain they've dealt with.

[Dahoss]

I'm just not sure how a track could be labeled speed favoring when closers win.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I'm just not sure how a track could be labeled speed favoring when closers win.

Well, I "have no opinion", "don't know what I'm talking about", "don't know anything about race tracks", and "have an agenda".

So if I were you, I would just smile and take my money.

[blackthroatedwind]

If you actually have a defendable position there is no reason to resort to the passive aggressive " poor me " position that is so prevelent on the internet when people get backed into a corner after trying to establish what is ultimately an indefensible opinion.

Or, how about " maybe I was wrong. "

[Riot]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

If you actually have a defendable position there is no reason to resort to the passive aggressive " poor me " position that is so prevelent on the internet when people get backed into a corner after trying to establish what is ultimately an indefensible opinion.

Or, how about " maybe I was wrong. "

LOL. Let's see. I took back the use of "concrete highway" as indeed being an unfair characterization. But no, I don't feel my assessment is wrong at all. Not everything about horse racing is precisely quantifiable.

We'll see what others opinions are when track variables and figures come out, and these horses run back in the future.

Sorry for you and the other self-characterized more knowledgeable here, but no, I don't feel I have to "defend" my opinion any more than I already have discussed it. It's called opinion for a reason. You don't like my opinion, or think it's wrong, or silly, good for you! That's what makes parimutual racing.

Neither do I think it is passive-aggressive or "poor me" to name other people's behaviour for precisely what it is. I suppose you evaluate others through your own behaviour patterns, though.