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Old 12-26-2010, 06:20 PM
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Heard from Jay Privman on site that they're going to be re-checking all the timings.
Maybe they can go to a 3 1/2-inch cushion to take some of the "speed-favoring concrete highway" away
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Maybe they can go to a 3 1/2-inch cushion to take some of the "speed-favoring concrete highway" away
Closers are doing well on it.
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Old 12-26-2010, 06:32 PM
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Closers are doing well on it.
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Maybe they can go to a 3 1/2-inch cushion to take some of the "speed-favoring concrete highway" away
You don't know what you're talking about. Sorry.
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Old 12-26-2010, 06:36 PM
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You don't know what you're talking about. Sorry.
I know today the track was advertised as having a 3-inch cushion, and the track sure seems to be carrying speed from what I've watched. Sorry for daring to have an opinion. Not. There are multiple horses today that have outrun their figures. Maybe it is a timer problem. Or maybe the track is pretty darn firm and fast.
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I know today the track was advertised as having a 3-inch cushion, and the track sure seems to be carrying speed from what I've watched. Sorry for daring to have an opinion. Not. Maybe it is a timer problem. Or maybe the track is pretty darn firm and fast.
Considering how much it rained you have to think they did everything they could to try and get the surface fast for opening day. We see this all of the time.

It wasn't speed favoring though...not even close. The results back it up.
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Old 12-26-2010, 06:46 PM
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It looks like WPS handle was down about 15%
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It's fast, but i don't think it's favoring speed very much. Caracortado wouldn't of gained that much (late in the Malibu.) On speed favoring tracks, you see closers that are hopelessly out of position. They will be way too far back in the middle of the race.
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Old 12-26-2010, 06:56 PM
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I know today the track was advertised as having a 3-inch cushion, and the track sure seems to be carrying speed from what I've watched. Sorry for daring to have an opinion. Not. There are multiple horses today that have outrun their figures. Maybe it is a timer problem. Or maybe the track is pretty darn firm and fast.
You have no opinion. You have an agenda. You don't know a thing about the track. You are completely wrong about it as speed-favoring and a concrete highway. Period.
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You have no opinion. You have an agenda. You don't know a thing about the track. You are completely wrong about it as speed-favoring and a concrete highway. Period.
Excuse me? Bull. You're the one being rude. I have no agenda here, but you sure have one apparently.

Yes, I like synthetics, but I'm excited SA went back to dirt. I'll be happy to take back the "concrete" remark as an overstatement, but yeah, I absolutely do think the track was playing fast and to speed today, especially after the 4th, and if you think my opinion is crap, feel free to bet against it. We'll have to see if they slow it down in the next few days after it's now dried out. You know, by maybe harrowing it a little deeper.
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Excuse me? Bull. You're the one being rude. I have no agenda here, but you sure have one apparently.

Yes, I like synthetics, but I'm excited SA went back to dirt. I'll be happy to take back the "concrete" remark as an overstatement, but yeah, I absolutely do think the track was playing fast and to speed today, especially after the 4th, and if you think my opinion is crap, feel free to bet against it. We'll have to see if they slow it down in the next few days after it's now dried out. You know, by maybe harrowing it a little deeper.
In what races specifically do you think speed was carried by the track?
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In what races specifically do you think speed was carried by the track?
I'll have to go back and watch the replays, but I thought The Factor (wow, exciting and speedy) was unexpectedly untireable" in the final 16th, I thought Arresting Officer, Smiling Tiger both lasted longer than expected, and Twirling Candy changed leads in the final strides to the wire yet didn't lose position (and broke the Bid's record?). And the final race (only watched it superficially) - didn't they go around from the backstretch home?
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Excuse me? Bull. You're the one being rude. I have no agenda here, but you sure have one apparently.

Yes, I like synthetics, but I'm excited SA went back to dirt. I'll be happy to take back the "concrete" remark as an overstatement, but yeah, I absolutely do think the track was playing fast and to speed today, especially after the 4th, and if you think my opinion is crap, feel free to bet against it.
I'm not being rude. I'm being succinct. Here's the CHARTS. The surface is fast. Every trainer there has said as much for three weeks. That doesn't make it concrete. And the results make it obvious that while fast, it didn't favor speed.
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I'm not being rude. I'm being succinct. Here's the CHARTS. The surface is fast. Every trainer there has said as much for three weeks. That doesn't make it concrete. And the results make it obvious that while fast, it didn't favor speed.
actually I think whacky jerry brown gets a thumbs up today..After years of telling us that the surfaces in the 70's were shallow today he might get some redemption..
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Old 12-26-2010, 07:31 PM
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I'm not being rude. I'm being succinct. Here's the CHARTS. The surface is fast. Every trainer there has said as much for three weeks. That doesn't make it concrete. And the results make it obvious that while fast, it didn't favor speed.
Then you ought to be darn happy I bet on horses, so you can take my money.
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Excuse me? Bull. You're the one being rude. I have no agenda here, but you sure have one apparently.

Yes, I like synthetics, but I'm excited SA went back to dirt. I'll be happy to take back the "concrete" remark as an overstatement, but yeah, I absolutely do think the track was playing fast and to speed today, especially after the 4th, and if you think my opinion is crap, feel free to bet against it. We'll have to see if they slow it down in the next few days after it's now dried out. You know, by maybe harrowing it a little deeper.
Do you think fast and speed favoring are one in the same?
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