Interesting/clever move; Lone Star Derby to lawn

[freddymo]

They need to let it go and support their core business (what is left of it) and redevelop organically.. It's called consolidation

Put freddy in charge. Dallas Cowboys t-shirt give-a-ways every weekend.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Put freddy in charge. Dallas Cowboys WET t-shirt give-a-ways every weekend.

FTFY

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by freddymo

They need to let it go and support their core business (what is left of it) and redevelop organically.. It's called consolidation

They couldn't do that. Andy Serling's favorite horse won it in 2003 and to not have such a championship caliber event would be blasphemy.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

They couldn't do that. Andy Serling's favorite horse won it in 2003 and to not have such a championship caliber event would be blasphemy.

They should let the race "die for ever".. Seriously until Racetracks start to work in concert with each other this stuff will not stop.. What is so hard about keeping the big races were they belong.. Why Lone Star needs a mil dollar weekend for non tx bred animals is ridiculous waste of money. If they ran 20% less and did away with these 300k races and infused the same dollars into 80% of the current dates they would attract bettors, horseman, and owners.

What would happen is in time better stock would emerge from a better overnight program. Then once the stock is truly available you can entertain a race of added purse level and prestige.

In the meantime shouldn't we have 12 in the Just a Game before we give away 200k in some BS turf race at Lone Star.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by freddymo

They need to let it go and support their core business (what is left of it) and redevelop organically.. It's called consolidation

Actually, Freddy, they are consolidating.

Essentially, they have merged two stakes races by moving it to the lawn and pushing it back to their big Memorial Day weekend. On that card, they have run a rich 3yo race called the USA Stakes for the past decade. I presume that race will no longer be run.

In that respect, they're not gumming up the national 3yo turf stakes schedule anymore than it already was either.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Actually, Freddy, they are consolidating.

Essentially, they have merged two stakes races by moving it to the lawn and pushing it back to their big Memorial Day weekend. On that card, they have run a rich 3yo race called the USA Stakes for the past decade. I presume that race will no longer be run.

In that respect, they're not gumming up the national 3yo turf stakes schedule anymore than it already was either.

Exactly. It actually saves them $400k net.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by philcski

Exactly. It actually saves them $400k net.

The USA was a 400k race? Racing 3 year old colts on the grass for big money in Tx. in late May is crazy. Where is the stock for 200k Ouija Board?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by philcski

Exactly. It actually saves them $400k net.

It only saves them 75k. They're still going to run the Grand Prairie Turf Challenge on Lone Star Million Preview Day and the LS Derby was at 200k this year. The USA had a 25k supplement from the BC so it was only 75k for LS itself.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Actually, Freddy, they are consolidating.

Essentially, they have merged two stakes races by moving it to the lawn and pushing it back to their big Memorial Day weekend. On that card, they have run a rich 3yo race called the USA Stakes for the past decade. I presume that race will no longer be run.

In that respect, they're not gumming up the national 3yo turf stakes schedule anymore than it already was either.

I have nothing against Lone Star or the people who race there.. Do think Cal grass stock is going to ship to Tx. to run in these spots unless its a Baffert third stringer or a some opt claimer type.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I have nothing against Lone Star or the people who race there.. Do think Cal grass stock is going to ship to Tx. to run in these spots unless its a Baffert third stringer or a some opt claimer type.

You're an idiot Freddy, and a bit late to the party. As I said, they've been running a turf stakes at Lone Star for over a decade. The USA Stakes was once worth a bit more than $75k so I don't think they have any grand illusions any more.

And yes, CA horses ship to Lone Star all the time (including that turf stakes). Get a subscription to the Blood-Horse or something if you can't follow racing on your own.