A 2nd BC Day?

[SniperSB23]

I'm sure a lot will hate this idea but I think the best idea is to expand to 12 races and run them at two different tracks with staggered starts like the Sunshine Millions. You would then get 12 races on TV in 3 hours which is something that would be more marketable to the mainstream, especially those who get bored and change the channel after they watch a race and realize it is another half hour until the next one. You would never have to worry about a race like the FM Turf being at 11 furlongs because you would make sure one of the two tracks is capable of running a 10 furlong turf race. It would make inclusion of the dirt mile possible since at least one of the two tracks would be able to run a mile dirt race.

I'd go something along these lines:
Track 1
BC Juvenile (1 mile)
BC Turf Sprint
BC Sprint
BC Juvenile Turf (8.5 furlongs)
BC Distaff
BC Turf

Track 2
BC Juvenile Fillies (1 mile)
BC FM Sprint
BC FM Turf
BC Dirt Mile
BC Turf Mile
BC Classic

[blackthroatedwind]

I think they should just eliminate it all-together and then perhaps races during the year could go back to having some meaning. But, then again, racing really is only about one race, a career record is obviously meaningless.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I think they should just eliminate it all-together and then perhaps races during the year could go back to having some meaning. But, then again, racing really is only about one race, a career record is obviously meaningless.

If they eliminated it do you really think we'd ever see Lava Man and Bernardini face off, or Henny Hughes and Bordonaro, or Aragorn and Gorella, or countless other matchups of east coast and west coast horses? Virtually no one would take the risk of shipping a top horse to the other coast without the reward of the Breeders' Cup. As many faults as the emphasis on the BC has, I think we are better off with it than without it.

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

If they eliminated it do you really think we'd ever see Lava Man and Bernardini face off, or Henny Hughes and Bordonaro, or Aragorn and Gorella, or countless other matchups of east coast and west coast horses? Virtually no one would take the risk of shipping a top horse to the other coast without the reward of the Breeders' Cup. As many faults as the emphasis on the BC has, I think we are better off with it than without it.

Nonsense, Sniper. Could I ask how old you are? I only ask that because in the Days before the BC people shipped all year long to face each other in grade one's to settle championships. Lemme tell ya, racng was full of matchups back then, the kind that met 2-3 -4 times a year rather than once. We sure wouldn't have had Alydar-Affirmed if the BC had been in place back then.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Nonsense, Sniper. Could I ask how old you are? I only ask that because in the Days before the BC people shipped all year long to face each other in grade one's to settle championships. Lemme tell ya, racng was full of matchups back then, the kind that met 2-3 -4 times a year rather than once. We sure wouldn't have had Alydar-Affirmed if the BC had been in place back then.

Alot less stakes races back then. You could have ran at Charlestown this weekend for 500k, and MOST ARLINGTON horses would beat those rats...There is too much money available to have these matchups now days. I don't fault connections one bit for shopping for races, because the cost to take care of ONE of these animals is astronomical. This sport needs an Alydar-Affirmed because it is dwindling

Originally Posted by Scav

Alot less stakes races back then. You could have ran at Charlestown this weekend for 500k, and MOST ARLINGTON horses would beat those rats...There is too much money available to have these matchups now days. I don't fault connections one bit for shopping for races, because the cost to take care of ONE of these animals is astronomical. This sport needs an Alydar-Affirmed because it is dwindling

Scav I don't understand what you are saying at all in regards to Charles Town. Both Laurel and Charles Town hosted lucrative races for MARYLAND AND WEST VIRGINIA BREDS this past weekend. As did calder for FLORIDA BREDS. Belmont hosts the NY bred showcase next weekend.
I assure you that anyone at Arlington who had a WV bred, Md bred, or Fla bred was there with their horse.
These races are restricted to state bred company and illustrating the 500 grand WV bred race as a race that any horse could have run in is false, those days don't draw away from the sport.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Scav I don't understand what you are saying at all in regards to Charles Town. Both Laurel and Charles Town hosted lucrative races for MARYLAND AND WEST VIRGINIA BREDS this past weekend. As did calder for FLORIDA BREDS. Belmont hosts the NY bred showcase next weekend.
I assure you that anyone at Arlington who had a WV bred, Md bred, or Fla bred was there with their horse.
These races are restricted to state bred company and illustrating the 500 grand WV bred race as a race that any horse could have run in is false, those days don't draw away from the sport.

While you could have drawn the conclusion that is what I meant, it isnt what I meant. I KNOW that they were conditioned to state bred, but in no way should a WV bred that is a claiming 15k rat should be running for 500k. the point I was trying to make and should have just said it this.

There are too many tracks out there with too much money, if we want this sport to get to where it once was, we need to lower the amount of stakes races around the country. There are too many tracks, that are filtering their money to one specific day, and letting the rest of their days go to crap. EVERY TRACK is guilty of it.

Someone mentioned the idea of a racing league, which would be a great idea, absolutely great idea, but you have too many owners that think they have huge balls and it would never work. Horse Racing COULD get NFL type hoopla and publicity, but it is marketed all wrong and set up all wrong.

There are two things that I wish I could take over and turn into goldmines, NCAA Football and Horse racing. If I could set up a 16 team playoff for the NCAA, it would be bigger then the March Madness, there is just as much passion in college football as in College basketball, it is just set up wrong (look at Florida and Auburn for example)...and if I could create a horse racing league, I could turn it into the NFL as far as attention.

Look at what the NFL has done, MILLIONS of people sit in front of the TV for 7 hours a day on Sundays. With what people's attention span are now days, that is unheard of

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Nonsense, Sniper. Could I ask how old you are? I only ask that because in the Days before the BC people shipped all year long to face each other in grade one's to settle championships. Lemme tell ya, racng was full of matchups back then, the kind that met 2-3 -4 times a year rather than once. We sure wouldn't have had Alydar-Affirmed if the BC had been in place back then.

Come on now, we both know the game has changed a lot. If you suddenly eliminated the BC the game would not go back to how it was in the 1970's.

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Come on now, we both know the game has changed a lot. If you suddenly eliminated the BC the game would not go back to how it was in the 1970's.

You'd be surprised.

[Scav]

Turf Sprint (because of the increased popularity of these races)

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I think they should just eliminate it all-together and then perhaps races during the year could go back to having some meaning. But, then again, racing really is only about one race, a career record is obviously meaningless.

excellent idea...this thing has turned into a super bowl type day, which make all races leading up to it meaningless. too much emphasis on one day, one race, too little attention paid to the rest of the year. why give out year awards if they don't care what a horse did all year??
also, i still can't get over them referring to the arc as a prep!! the ARC? relegated to prep status...that's ludicrous!

the breeders would be better off continuing their breeders incentives throughout the year, such as added purses like they have right now, give the races from years beginning to years end some meaning, not just those that occur on one day.