Scorpion to turf,George to Classic

pmayjr · #1 10-15-2006, 09:21 PM

So you're thinking maybe he might be the next Giant's Causeway? Hopefully without the duds?

#2 10-15-2006, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr

So you're thinking maybe he might be the next Giant's Causeway? Hopefully without the duds?

Could be. I mean take a real close look at the Classic contedars outside of Bernardini. Lava Man is awesome in Cali but he has yet to prove he can do well outside of the state. Invasor lost a couple days of training due to a cold and he is coming off a real long layoff. Not to mention, it took everything he had to hold off Sun King. Contrary to popular belief, this isnt a real strong group.

repent · #3 10-15-2006, 11:39 PM

I like the move.
winning the BCM does not do a lot to his breeding value.
winning the BCC puts him in Giants Causeway territory.

can he run on dirt?
who knows.
no reason to think Sakhee would act on dirt, and he ran lights out.
every reason to think Hawk Wing would move up on dirt, and he never ran a step.
same can be said for Nebraska Tornado, Oratoria, and others.

its probably NOT going to work, but its a sportsman's move.

Repent

King Glorious · #4 10-16-2006, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr

So you're thinking maybe he might be the next Giant's Causeway? Hopefully without the duds?

I don't know. All I know is that the Mile would have done nothing for him as I said a long time ago and others are now coming around to understanding. I do think that he's more of a 10f horse than 8f here in the States though. The kinds of horses to watch out for when they are shipping over for the Mile are the French horses. Horses that win the top miles in England have historically sucked in the BC. No winner of the Sussex or QE II have ever won it. The only winners of the Mile that won a group I/II 8f race in England were Miesque, Ridgewood Pearl, and Barathea and of the three, only Barathea was an English trained horse. All of that history was against GW winning the Mile. Horses that do well in the French 8f races have always fared pretty well in this race. Pay extra attention to Librettist and also Araafa if he comes.

tycharles01 · #5 10-16-2006, 01:17 PM

Mile gets

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kentuckyrosesinmay · #6 10-16-2006, 01:43 PM

This is a rookie question because I don't know all that much about breeding value, but why wouldn't a win in the Mile increase George's stud value? Is it because he has already established himself as dominant as a miler on the turf in Europe?

SniperSB23 · #7 10-16-2006, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

This is a rookie question because I don't know all that much about breeding value, but why wouldn't a win in the Mile increase George's stud value? Is it because he has already established himself as dominant as a miler on the turf in Europe?

Winning the Mile would only prove what breeders already know, that GW is good enough to win the BC Mile. Losing it would only hurt his value.

Winning or even hitting the board in the Classic would put him in an elite category and greatly increase his value. Losing it would have no impact at all on his value as everyone would just blame it on the surface and still consider him an elite turf miler who would have won the BC Mile if they had run him there.

GenuineRisk · #8 10-16-2006, 03:32 PM

Here's the lastest article on it from bloodhorse.

http://bc.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=35833

Whatever their reason to do it, it'll add some interest to the Classic, which is fine with me.

Revolution · #9 10-16-2006, 03:50 PM

This is a good article I got in an e-mail. It goes into it pretty good.

http://sport.independent.co.uk/gener...cle1876685.ece