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12-10-2010, 11:41 PM
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What was his Beyer in the loss to the great Lorenzoni?
 
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12-11-2010, 01:17 PM
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Getting nipped in a debut sprint is no big deal - A LOT of great horses failed to win as first time starters. Your recent favorite horse - Bernardini - was soundly beaten by several lengths in his debut at 6fs. He wouldn't lose again till Javier fixed him up with a masterfully timed ride in the BC Classic. Easy Goer was a powerful finishing router - and often a green and erratic one. Getting nipped in a 6f debut sprint to a 4th time starter who was subsquently three times stakes placed at age 2 is no big deal. Lorenzoni also won an ALW race at Keeneland by 12 lengths prior to running 2nd in a Grade 2 his freshman year.
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12-11-2010, 02:41 PM
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[quote name='King Glorious' timestamp='1263876122' post='394297']
People don't realize the importance luck plays in these things. It's almost as important as how good a horse actually is. If there was no Sunday Silence, Easy Goer would have been 3yo champion and HOY with wins in the: Swale, Gotham, Wood Memorial, Kentucky Derby, Preakness, Belmont, Whitney, Travers, Woodward, JCGC, and BC Classic. Hell, he would not only have been the champion but he would be in the same convo with Secretariat, Spectacular Bid, and Dr. Fager as the best horse ever. If there was no Easy Goer, Sunday Silence would have been a TC winner himself. They both had the bad luck of coming up against each other. This year, as good as Rachel was, if not for Jackson coming and making the offer for her, we wouldn't have seen any of this because her previous owner thought females shouldn't face males. [/quote] KG
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12-11-2010, 06:25 PM
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12-11-2010, 07:09 PM
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Another man undone by a woman.
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12-11-2010, 11:25 PM
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12-11-2010, 06:52 PM
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One hyped unraced CA colt from the '90s that also had a disastrous debut was the Naskra colt Olympio for Verne Winchell and Ron McAnally in '90 at Oak Tree. He missed the break and made up untold buckets of ground to finish IIRC in a blanket finish (he only got 4th). Next out he crushed before winning a quick edition of the Hollywood Prevue. Best Pal and two turns derailed his move for the top of the division in CA, but he was good enough to make the Preakness later on, and had a 3yo year to rival the great Lost Code. Can you dig up his PPs?
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12-11-2010, 07:31 PM
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I'll post the three of them later if I have them.
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12-11-2010, 07:48 PM
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I was there for Cahill Road's Wood. He was a very good horse. I'll bet he would have gotten a huge number.
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12-11-2010, 08:38 PM
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109 according to the ARM.
I see he beat Strike the Gold in an alw race at GP that winter.  That was some debut by Strike The Gold. Alydar's two Horse of the Year winners (Alysheba and Criminal Type) both failed to win their debut as well. Alysheba was 5th.
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12-11-2010, 11:26 PM
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12-12-2010, 08:39 AM
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