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12-10-2010, 11:59 AM
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12-10-2010, 01:03 PM
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Democrats have turned it on the GOP
The Democrats have turned the tables on the GOP, and Bernie Sanders is up there on the Senate floor, actually holding the floor and talking ... C-Span2 You go, Bernie. You even filibuster better than the GOP. At least you have the balls to actually hold the floor <g>
Update: He started at 10:30, and it's 3:30, five hours, and the old guy is still going. Good for him <g>
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"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts Last edited by Riot : 12-10-2010 at 03:35 PM.
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12-10-2010, 07:48 PM
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now, since it's the dems, filibustering is just peachy.  glad to see you're consistent.
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12-11-2010, 12:53 PM
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The GOP filibusters to prevent bills from even coming to the floor for discussion by the Majority Leader. They file an "intent to filibuster", then go home. And "intent" forces the bill on the back burner until the majority can come up with 60 votes to even bring it to the floor. Takes at least a week. There is no standing on the floor and actually doing something, either. And then, if the bill ever gets brought to the floor for discussion, they block debate, and then they block the ability to vote on it - as they have done this week alone with DADT, the Dream Act, the military appropriations bill, etc. The GOP hasn't voted bills down. They have prevented the entire Senate from voting on bills. The GOP is simply obstructive jerks. Well, two can play that game, and the Dems are going to take away their parliamentary ability to do that. There will still be a filibuster, but the minority won't be able to hold the majority hostage, and circumvent the Constitution, anymore.
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12-11-2010, 08:04 PM
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12-12-2010, 03:34 AM
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Just because Riot said it doesn't make it untrue. You may be as tired of all this stuff as anyone, but I know for a fact personally that you're far from dimwitted enough to fail to understand the difference. Nascar? I'll give him a pass for lacking the basic function to see the difference. But you? Pretend Riot didn't say it. Then the difference is obvious. Doesn't make an ounce of difference or change in the long-run, but they're hardly the same thing as far as filibusters go.
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12-12-2010, 03:31 PM
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We are talking about the minority party literally preventing the routine work of the Senate. Preventing items even being brought up on the floor. Blocking the ability to vote via unprecedented parliamentary wrangling. Blocking the Senate from even voting when clearly the will of the people is to vote a certain way, straw polls of the Senate indicate a vote will follow the will of the people with a clear majority, and the minority party doesn't like the way that vote will go. Obstructing the Senate from their routine business of making law, obstructing the discussion of issues they were all elected to discuss. You have one party that has figuratively put a lock on the Senate doors for the past two years (and even the two before), saying, "We lost the election, we don't like what the majority is going to do, so we simply will not allow the Senate to function normally"
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"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts Last edited by Riot : 12-12-2010 at 03:41 PM.
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