NEWS FLASH! Andy Beyer to burn in hell!

randallscott35 · #1 12-10-2010, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

His was the best rationale at all for a Zenyatta voter. I have no reason to do it, I can't really justify it, I'm not even sure I believe it but I'm voting for her because little girls waved signs and the media followed her around for a year. Ah, turf writers, they're the best.

That isn't a rationale. Talk about dealing with hostage takers.

Mawhip · #2 12-10-2010, 10:50 AM

Zenyatta had a much better case for HOY last year and she didn't win. She will not win this year either. She did not have a better year than Blame. HOY is not an award for who had the best career. She had a much better career than Blame and that is why she will be in the Hall of Fame and Blame won't.

Dahoss · #3 12-10-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mawhip

Zenyatta had a much better case for HOY last year and she didn't win. She will not win this year either. She did not have a better year than Blame. HOY is not an award for who had the best career. She had a much better career than Blame and that is why she will be in the Hall of Fame and Blame won't.

Zenyatta is a lock for HOY now.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #4 12-10-2010, 10:50 AM

goldikova is gonna get hosed..and that means the breeders cup does not
mean ****

OldDog · #5 12-10-2010, 11:05 AM

"But just what is the Horse of the Year? It is left for each Eclipse Award voter to decide."

http://www.xpressbet.com/iframe/article.aspx?id=2306

Kasept · #6 12-10-2010, 11:08 AM

Beyer's last 3 paragraphs. As perfect and logical a summation of this discussion as anyone will write...

However, Zenyatta's fans cannot make an honest case that she had a better 2010 season than Blame, who raced against the country's best males, recording four wins and a second-place finish in five starts. Zenyatta scored all of her five victories against relatively weak filly-and-mare rivals - if Blame or the other leading males had run against such competition, the outcomes would have been routs. No female racehorse in history would have been considered a potential Horse of the Year on the basis of such a flimsy race summary. The Classic was Zenyatta's make-or-break test.

She made a gallant effort as she rallied from last place and barely failed to catch Blame. She won over many skeptics, myself included, who doubted her ability because she had never before raced against top competition on dirt. Nevertheless, she lost - a fact that eludes her admirers who believe an honorable defeat counts as a win. Ed Fountaine of the New York Post concluded his Horse of the Year argument for Zenyatta by writing, "She was hopelessly outdistanced in the race, yet lost by inches."

Zenyatta's fans imagine that their heroine overcame terrible adversity in the Classic and that the fact she was "hopelessly outdistanced . . . yet lost by inches" underscores her greatness. This is nonsense. She trailed the field because that is the way she always runs. For a horse rallying from last place in a 12-horse field, she enjoyed a relatively easy trip. She saved ground on the turn and avoided serious traffic trouble. She was abetted by the fast early pace that enervated the leaders. Blame got the jump on Zenyatta because he is a quicker, more versatile runner, and he was resolute enough to withstand her late charge. He earned the Horse of the Year title by beating his main rival in a head-to-head championship showdown, and the outpouring of specious arguments on Zenyatta's behalf cannot alter that fact.

Clip-Clop · #7 12-10-2010, 11:18 AM

Steve, you should know better by now then to bring logic into this argument, it is kinda like being married.

freddymo · #8 12-10-2010, 11:35 AM

Beyers thoughts are meaningless because he wasnt privy to Fat Charts. If TFM would just post them then we could all see that she was a "Wipe Out" winner 19 out 20 times.. Then everything would be crystal clear..

The Indomitable DrugS · #9 12-10-2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Beyers thoughts are meaningless because he wasnt privy to Fat Charts. If TFM would just post them then we could all see that she was a "Wipe Out" winner 19 out 20 times.. Then everything would be crystal clear..

I had the BC Classic Fat Charts PM'd to me - and First Dude scored a "Wipe Out" over his fellow pace rivals.

I believe he deserves to go down in history as having the greatest 3-year-old season by an N1X horse ever.

Indian Charlie · #10 12-10-2010, 11:54 AM

What about Turkoman?

Thunder Gulch · #11 12-10-2010, 11:38 AM

I wish I could wake up in March during the Triple Crown prep season with all of this Zenyatta stuff behind me. I think it's pretty clear she will win, though it's highly debatable if she deserves it. #1 I don't think she does, and #2 I'm way beyond caring. Though Blame won it on the track, I'm not about to cry a river of injustice if he doesn't....can we please move on to horses that are active?