The real party of NO, the GOP, steps it up

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Anyone notice that they are gunna agree to spend the most possible, and pay for it the least possible? Money spent on unemployment checks, but won't even increase taxes on millionaires. That was the least responsible thing they could do. You telling me this OBA guy ever had any kind of financial discipline? The wife has got to be in charge of that family's shyt.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Anyone notice that they are gunna agree to spend the most possible, and pay for it the least possible? Money spent on unemployment checks, but won't even increase taxes on millionaires. That was the least responsible thing they could do. You telling me this OBA guy ever had any kind of financial discipline? The wife has got to be in charge of that family's shyt.

Far be it from me to praise Obama but hasn't there a lot of complaining by the left that the GOP wasn't willing to work with the President? And now that he is compromising, the left howls at Obama in discontent?

Oh that's right, it is a one way street that they want us to travel down.

I find it amusing reading about the unnamed liberals in the House threatening to not honor the Senate and Presidents deal. Their love of the progressive agenda and hatred of "the rich" are so great they they are willing to be obstructionist toward their own President and with seemingly little regard for the middle class and unemployed they supposedly give a damn about.

Before you say that the GOP wouldnt make the deal without concessions "for millionaires" lets not forget that the head Democrat in the Senate and the Democratic President signed off on the deal that the liberals are now whining about. Remember that the voices on the left spouting off are the ones that arent up for election in 2012 or are in districts/states where they are practically unbeatable. This should bring to light that the far left cares about nothing but their desire to promote thier agenda regardless of the consequences.

The entire episode proves one thing for sure. Obama sees that pandering to the left hasn't gotten him very far (he got elected for the same reason that Reid got reelected, terrible opponents) and is going to kill his chances for reelection unless he moves closer to that center where Riot and friends always claimed that he was.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Far be it from me to praise Obama but hasn't there a lot of complaining by the left that the GOP wasn't willing to work with the President? And now that he is compromising, the left howls at Obama in discontent?

Oh that's right, it is a one way street that they want us to travel down.

I find it amusing reading about the unnamed liberals in the House threatening to not honor the Senate and Presidents deal. Their love of the progressive agenda and hatred of "the rich" are so great they they are willing to be obstructionist toward their own President and with seemingly little regard for the middle class and unemployed they supposedly give a damn about.

Before you say that the GOP wouldnt make the deal without concessions "for millionaires" lets not forget that the head Democrat in the Senate and the Democratic President signed off on the deal that the liberals are now whining about. Remember that the voices on the left spouting off are the ones that arent up for election in 2012 or are in districts/states where they are practically unbeatable. This should bring to light that the far left cares about nothing but their desire to promote thier agenda regardless of the consequences.

The entire episode proves one thing for sure. Obama sees that pandering to the left hasn't gotten him very far (he got elected for the same reason that Reid got reelected, terrible opponents) and is going to kill his chances for reelection unless he moves closer to that center where Riot and friends always claimed that he was.

Only chance Obama gets relected is an dramatic improvement in the economy (Not going to happen) or the Republicans counter with Sarah Palin.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by jms62

Only chance Obama gets relected is an dramatic improvement in the economy (Not going to happen) or the Republicans counter with Sarah Palin.

The GOP old guard has already attacked Palin several times this past two weeks calling her incompetent publically. If Palin blunders ahead on her own she'd never make it through Iowa, because the caucuses are pretty savvy politically.

The GOP candidate isn't elected by caucus as the Dem is in Iowa, but Palin would never survive talking to those folks as she'd have to: you can't mouth platitudes and refuse media interviews with those voters, they are too educated and take their politics very seriously.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Far be it from me to praise Obama but hasn't there a lot of complaining by the left that the GOP wasn't willing to work with the President? And now that he is compromising, the left howls at Obama in discontent?

You're ignoring that the GOP hasn't compromised in 2 years, and the GOP still hasn't compromised one whit, while Obama compromises before negotiations begin, then does it again. Compromise takes two sides. The GOP has yet to step up in two years.

Yes, the left is quite fed up with Obama giving in over and over again to the GOP, and he'll face a progressive primary challenge if he doesn't turn it around.

Scuds: Bush's tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 got passed in the first place because the compromise with the Dems was the sunset date on the taxes.

We're broke. All the tax cuts should expire. We're in a recession. If anyone gets a tax cut, it should be the lowest earners, not the richest 2% in the country. That is so beyond absurd it's unbelievable. That tiny tax increase will provide 700 trillion to lower the deficit over 10 years. We need that money.

I find it amusing reading about the unnamed liberals in the House threatening to not honor the Senate and Presidents deal. Their love of the progressive agenda and hatred of "the rich" are so great they they are willing to be obstructionist toward their own President and with seemingly little regard for the middle class and unemployed they supposedly give a damn about.

That makes no sense. The more progressive are threatening to obstruct their President because not because of your imagined and absurd "hatred of the rich" (that's hilarious - you guys are good at playing victims, aren't you?) but because the President threw our deficit under the bus with the extension of tax cuts for the richest Americans, he put out that he'd give that up before negotiations even began (which infuriated his base), and the Pres tied unemployment benefits to the tax cuts, when the party majority absolutely wanted it kept separately.

Just going by what these "unnamed liberals" (they are not anonymous) Democrats have said about it in public.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

You're ignoring that the GOP hasn't compromised in 2 years, and the GOP still hasn't compromised one whit, while Obama compromises before negotiations begin, then does it again. Compromise takes two sides. The GOP has yet to step up in two years.

Yes, the left is quite fed up with Obama giving in over and over again to the GOP, and he'll face a progressive primary challenge if he doesn't turn it around.

Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary you continue to promote falsehoods.

The GOP didn't compromise in this deal with the White house? Uh sure they didn't.

Obama has given in to the GOP time and time again? On what exactly?

The liberal mindset is that you aren't compromising unless you are capitulating.

Nothing would be better for the GOP and worse for the Demorats than a primary challenge for Obama from someone MORE liberal than he is.

[Riot]

Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary you continue to promote falsehoods.

Excuse me? I suggest you pay a little more attention to politics on a daily basis. You're obviously clueless as to what the Republicans have been doing - and not doing - for the past two years. You want to know what exactly that is? Try looking at the Senate voting record for the past two years.

You think the GOP has been compromising for two years? You there there is overwhelming evidence of this? BAWAAAHAAAAA Go ahead - produce it.

And you still haven't been able to produce any economists to support your absurd contention that unemployment benefits don't put cash into the economy, don't immediately help the economy, don't prevent loss of jobs (for grocers, etc).

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Excuse me? I suggest you pay a little more attention to politics on a daily basis. You're obviously clueless as to what the Republicans have been doing - and not doing - for the past two years. You want to know what exactly that is? Try looking at the Senate voting record for the past two years.

You think the GOP has been compromising for two years? BAWAAAHAAAAA

But Obama gives them too much?

So The GOP blocks everything and yet Obama bend over for them?

I guess (if it were true) that the GOP strategy was a good one?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

But Obama gives them too much?

So The GOP blocks everything and yet Obama bend over for them?

I guess (if it were true) that the GOP strategy was a good one?

Yup. That is true, it is exactly what Obama has been doing. He gave away single payer for the health bill, that angered his base, and last week, when he proactively came out and said, before negotiations, that he'd extend all the Bush tax cuts for two years, his base went crazy. Don't forget one of his biggest campaign promises was not to extend that. Period.

BTW, this "deal" Obama made with the Senate may yet fall apart. All tax bills must come first from the House, anyway. Pelosi told Obama that some of her members are definitely not on board. There are GOP senators starting to publically defect on extending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, in favor of deficit reduction. The progressive wing of the House wants to hold the line at 1 million for tax cut extensions, period.