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11-29-2010, 09:52 PM
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You can't change what tracks the triple crown is contested over!
If you move the Preakness Stakes to another track than there is no longer a Triple Crown to be won. Why? Because than you are changing the accomplishment of winning the triple crown. What the general public doesn't understand is that horses win 3 races in a row at 3 different race tracks all the time. But not all race track pose the same obstacles as Churchill, Pimlico and Belmont. The accomplishment of sweeping the triple crown is doing it over these three race tracks. These three races at their current distances over there current tracks test a horse in a way they could never be tested otherwise. Every race track has it's own unique obstacles for horses to overcome. The 11 super horses who swept the Triple Crown did so over the same three tracks while overcoming each individual tracks obstacles. If you move the Preakness Stakes to a new track than the a horse is no longer being tested in the same way as the previous 11 triple crown winners. Thus they are sweeping a new series. Sure you COULD run the Preakness Stakes at another race track, but if a horse were to win the Derby at Churchill, The Belmont Stakes at Belmont Park, and the Preakness Stakes at, say, Santa Anita Park than that horse would have swept a different Triple Crown than the previous 11 did. That Horse would have been tested differently. The unique thing about running the races as they are now where they are now is that it urges a horse to be special. No horse has ever accidentally won the triple crown in it's current form. Thorough out the history of the Triple Crown in America things have not always been a constant. For example at one time the Preakness Stakes was run before the Kentucky Derby. Other non-constants have been distances. When Sir Barton won the Kentucky Derby he did so by winning at a different distance than the race is currently held at. But one of the things that has been a constant is that the three triple crown races were always held at there current three tracks. You MUST sweep the crown at Churchill, Pimlico and Belmont! If not you have not been tested the same way as the horses who have previously won the triple crown. Last edited by smartbid09 : 11-29-2010 at 10:49 PM. 
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11-29-2010, 09:57 PM
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Moving the Triple Crown and its races would be like moving The Masters from Augusta National.
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11-29-2010, 10:24 PM
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You all need to get a grip.
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11-30-2010, 06:21 AM
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i don't agree with smartbid. altho a change to another track for the preakness would be a shame, it wouldn't be that big a deal imo. not for the series at least. for racing in md it would be a damned crying shame. for the integrity of the crown? not so much. now, moving the ky derby from churchill would be the ultimate blasphemy. the preakness? not so much. do i see it actually happening? well, of course not.
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11-30-2010, 01:08 PM
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Old traditions die, new traditions are born. If MD racing croaks--and maybe it should--what is the frigging point of keeping the Preakness in MD? The haven't played the Super Bowl in L.A. since it became a town without a team.
If there is change, I imagine it could involve trying to prop up the big three racing jurisdictions, so (obviously) you keep the Derby as is; put a middle race at SA, say 3 weeks later. Then run the Belmont a month after that. Of course there is nothing to prevent PA or WV from trying to pull a "Garden State 1985", either, so there will have to be some kind of sizable TC bonus system, and not just for a sweep. Everyone will always say of a TC winner "Oh, it's not like the Triple Crown of the old days!" True enough, but that is reality--today's horses, for better or worse (I say the latter, obviously) are NOT like the horses of yesteryear. Deal with it. I am fine if things stay as they are. But if they don't, it can be fine, too.
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11-30-2010, 06:23 AM
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The situation feels like a unified attempt by the horsemen to force MID (Magna) out of Maryland.
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11-30-2010, 08:53 AM
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0.0 percent chance the Preakness will ever not be run in Maryland. Not going to happen.
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11-30-2010, 10:19 AM
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11-30-2010, 10:41 AM
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Make a leg a Turf race like the Canadian Triple Crown
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11-30-2010, 12:12 PM
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What about that 5 million bonus that is out there?
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11-30-2010, 08:38 PM
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11-30-2010, 09:44 PM
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I am reminded of a quote--attributed to either De Gaul or Clemenceau, no one can quite decide which--when he was told someone was "indispensable". "The graveyards are filled with indispensable men." And so it is with supposedly immortal sporting traditions.
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11-30-2010, 09:57 PM
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De Gaul? Clemenceau? usurped?
In a match-up with Kasept - I'd take Tector and the points.
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12-01-2010, 12:12 AM
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And a lawyer. I think Tector would be giving points, not getting them.
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12-01-2010, 12:16 AM
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Actually, that would be an interesting thread in Eso. Head to head DT matchups in debate skills.
I use the term 'debate' loosely. For instance, DrugS -130 vs Joey Salvator +110 Sterling -110 vs TFF -110 CSC's opinion on one day -110 vs his opinion the next day -110 Coach Pants -200 vs Doreen +170 Etc.
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12-01-2010, 02:20 AM
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12-01-2010, 08:52 AM
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