Trivia

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Came to New York in the summer of '91 and swept four Grade 1's that summer before feet trouble took hold I guess. Still holds the track record for 1 1/4 miles at Belmont.



Name him.

In Excess

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Yep. Sire of the immortal Indian Charlie.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yep. Sire of the immortal Indian Charlie.

What Beyer did In Excess get for his first dirt start, the San Fernando?

He absolutely made a mess of a solid bunch of horses that day but quickly fell back down to earth when having to run 10f in both the Strub and Big Cap.

That's why the Suburban effort is a bit illusory, IMO. IIRC, it was a 5 horse field and he had everything his own way. Chief Honcho was a nice horse but hardly a division heavyweight.

I wonder how the '91 BC Classic would have played out had he started.

Throw Farma Way (I think he was injured by then) into that mix as well and perhaps Unbridled, Festin, and Strike The Gold would have been 1-2-3.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

What Beyer did In Excess get for his first dirt start, the San Fernando?

He absolutely made a mess of a solid bunch of horses that day but quickly fell back down to earth when having to run 10f in both the Strub and Big Cap.

That's why the Suburban effort is a bit illusory, IMO. IIRC, it was a 5 horse field and he had everything his own way. Chief Honcho was a nice horse but hardly a division heavyweight.

I wonder how the '91 BC Classic would have played out had he started.

Throw Farma Way (I think he was injured by then) into that mix as well and perhaps Unbridled, Festin, and Strike The Gold would have been 1-2-3.

117 - the Suburban was a 7 horse field... I don't remember anything about it obviously. Chief Honcho was in pretty solid form - after the two defeats to In Excess - he was beaten less than a length by Black Tie Affair in the Gr 1 Iselin and 2nd by 1.25 lengths to Festin in the Jockey Club Gold Cup in his next two starts.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

This horse was dead last of 12 - after just 8 furlongs - in the Breeders Cup Classic. Despite being very hard ridden - he was a length behind the hopelessly slow and still restrained Pleasant Prince after a mile ... but unlike Life At Ten, Johnny V. at least bothered to ask him for everything he had.



Name him.

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

This horse was dead last of 12 - after just 8 furlongs - in the Breeders Cup Classic. Despite being very hard ridden - he was a length behind the hopelessly slow and still restrained Pleasant Prince after a mile ... but unlike Life At Ten, Johnny V. at least bothered to ask him for everything he had.



Name him.

Dr. Carter.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Dr. Carter.

Please, he would have been able to make the lead against First Dude - especially considering that they wanted to take First Dude back according to Romans.

He also would have dusted a restrained Pleasant Prince at a mile.