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Old 11-27-2010, 05:33 PM
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I'm sure you know the problem with this is that the ones the make the ROI so nice are the ones that are very hard to predict will make the lead.
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Old 11-27-2010, 05:39 PM
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I'm sure you know the problem with this is that the ones the make the ROI so nice are the ones that are very hard to predict will make the lead.
How is it a problem if you are betting after the race started? Isnt that the point of DrugS post? He wants another job as a Tix puncher
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Old 11-27-2010, 06:18 PM
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How is it a problem if you are betting after the race started? Isnt that the point of DrugS post? He wants another job as a Tix puncher
Go to Freehold and ask for a teller job - try it for a day.

If nothing's changed - you should be able to scope out a trotter race where there's an even money horse and a 8/5 horse ... bet them both to win with the intent of cancelling both ... if one breaks before or right at the start ... only cancel the ticket of the breaker.

It's a blast - you'll feel like a genius until you inevitably watch your standout break as well.
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Old 11-27-2010, 06:13 PM
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I'm sure you know the problem with this is that the ones the make the ROI so nice are the ones that are very hard to predict will make the lead.
For sure - but it's why I've always spent so much time studying pace - and more recently, seeing the light on pace figures.

There are a lot of situations where a horse should be loose on a lead - and because of extreme human error or a poor start - they aren't.

I also think the nature of the animal has a lot to do with why the ROI is so high. If they can't make the lead - they'll quit - and finish dismally. If they have to fight for it - they'll burn out and tire severly. This in turn leads the public to underrate the horses ability .. and when said horse finally gets that unpressured lead, it gets brave and runs to its true ability.

Most of the trailing horses also have to run while getting dirt kicked into their eyes and up their nose. They typcially have to race wider on the turns. They are more subject to traffic trouble and bumping etc. In a sport where 0.10 seconds can make all the difference - that's a setback.

Again, not that any of this is even slightly ground breaking.
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