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Old 06-11-2006, 07:22 PM
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not to defend Bob and John
but if you look down the list
he was the only horse to win
a prep, The G1, Wood Memorial
prior to derby
BG Cat a distant second at CD, distant at Kee
Sunriver, winner of the Pan, but favorite?
The Woofer..third in derby, second in Ark
B & J was 18 3/4 back
Sacred Light 23 back
Deputy Glitters 40 3/4 back
now we are talking Baffert, winner if this race
Hofmans, a very good trainer
and Albertrani, who just won the Preakness
all that far back to a horse like Jazil
I'm going to go out on a limb and call this race the worst
G1 race in the history of thoroughbred racing
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Old 06-11-2006, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.
not to defend Bob and John
but if you look down the list
he was the only horse to win
a prep, The G1, Wood Memorial
prior to derby
BG Cat a distant second at CD, distant at Kee
Sunriver, winner of the Pan, but favorite?
The Woofer..third in derby, second in Ark
B & J was 18 3/4 back
Sacred Light 23 back
Deputy Glitters 40 3/4 back
now we are talking Baffert, winner if this race
Hofmans, a very good trainer
and Albertrani, who just won the Preakness
all that far back to a horse like Jazil
I'm going to go out on a limb and call this race the worst
G1 race in the history of thoroughbred racing
I don't think this was a bad race at all. I just could only make a case for Sunriver, Steppen, and Jazil on the sheets, the only ones I played in a Pick 4....I was merely commenting on Bob N John being the favorite. What people saw in him for this spot, I will never know.
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Old 06-11-2006, 08:41 PM
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They saw Baffert, Gomez, and what looked like a good trip coming. I didn't see it either....
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Old 06-11-2006, 09:24 PM
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They saw Baffert, Gomez, and what looked like a good trip coming. I didn't see it either....
Scavs, how did you end up on the day?
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Old 06-11-2006, 09:40 PM
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My thoughts were far from the "big" race, but as I watched it while trying to contemplate basketball tasks and strategies, it was clear I was so dead wrong that I was thankful for being away from my gambling relatives. I got about 4 calls on my message machine asking who do I like, who do I like. My gut told me Sunriver, and I was sure if Jazil tried to stay anywhere close to the lead he would fry and die. Those messages were not returned.

As I was as wrong as a man can be, I am comforted that I was out of town. So I got that going for me. If any of the board was actually physically present I would now ask to BE SLAPPED UP SIDE THE HEAD. If the gut is what one actually uses in predicting an outcome of an event, I humbly ask to be eviscerated...

Utterly, and at the same time spectacularly,WRONG.
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Old 06-12-2006, 09:11 AM
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I was down with the masses all day (well, I am one of the masses, so that figures) and had a lot of fun. Though, holy cow, someone should tell single women to take up horse racing to meet men-- the pick-up attempts started within 30 seconds of my getting to the train platform. Although most of the men are pretty skeevy-looking... so scratch that idea. My riding buddy and I were exhausted after fending off pick-up lines from drunk men all day long.

Lots and lots of people in their 20s and 30s there for the day.

Signed the Barbaro get well card.

Lessons learned by a novice handicapper-- 1) I can't bet the big races to save my life, because I get emotionally involved. Stay away from big races.

2) Don't look down on races where two heavily bet favorites are clearly the only ones with a shot to win-- it may not pay much, but it's as close to a sure thing as you'll ever get, and an exacta that pays 5-1 is still several times over a 100 percent return on your investment. I picked 4 exactas and 1 trifecta that day, but didn't bet on two of the exactas because it didn't seem worth it, and then felt like I should have bet them.

3)Don't ever again schedule a move on the same weekend as the Belmont. I didn't get to sit down with the form until midnight on Friday, went to bed at 3AM and got up just a few hours later to continue packing. Bleah.

4)Don't leave "Showgirls" on TV in the background while you're handicapping. Even when it's on VH1 and is edited down to about a 45-minute movie, it's still such a train wreck it's hard to look away.

5) Someone should tell VH1 that "Showgirls" is not a "Movie that Rocks."

I took a gazillion photos on my little digital camera-- I'll post some of the better ones once I have time-- we moved yesterday and I've got to find my make-up before an audition today! I have some nice ones of EC in the walking ring for Kev, and Buffy, I have some of B&J if you still want to see them...

And I was happy Jazil won (even though I didn't bet him) because I like it when the little guys win. See? Emotionally involved.
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Old 06-12-2006, 09:16 AM
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2) Don't look down on races where two heavily bet favorites are clearly the only ones with a shot to win-- it may not pay much, but it's as close to a sure thing as you'll ever get, and an exacta that pays 5-1 is still several times over a 100 percent return on your investment. I picked 4 exactas and 1 trifecta that day, but didn't bet on two of the exactas because it didn't seem worth it, and then felt like I should have bet them.
Ain't that the truth. Anybody with functioning eyeballs could've seen the Woody Stephens was a two-horse race, yet the exacta paid $15.80, which is almost 7-1 straight or almost 3-1 boxed. I should've cashed there.

Side note: Can anyone explain to me how TIGER WENT OFF AT 4-5?!?!?!
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