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Old 11-16-2010, 03:02 PM
NTamm1215 NTamm1215 is offline
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For sure?

These horses were before my time, so I can't say definitively, but when you factor in Secretariat's superiority at distances beyond 10f - and the ability he showed on turf - I have hard time saying anyone is "for sure" better than him historically.

I think you're right that if you look only at running 7f-10f on the dirt, the Bid is probably the best ever. But as I know you know well, that isn't all there is to the sport. Could Sec have dominated a 7f race like the Malibu the way the Bid did? I'm guessing probably not. But could the Bid do what Sec did in the Belmont and the Man O' War? Probably not.
Secretariat's win in the first Marlboro Cup was one of his best races as well. The final time was a record and they timed one more furlong to get him at 10fs in 1:57 and 4/5.
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Old 11-16-2010, 08:01 PM
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Secretariat's win in the first Marlboro Cup was one of his best races as well. The final time was a record and they timed one more furlong to get him at 10fs in 1:57 and 4/5.
I was there that day. What a horse he was.

I can still remember when he showed up in the Champagne. Those were the days before speed figures were prevalent, and he showed up off that insane win at Atlantic City in the World's Playground, but was meeting General Assembly. I was shocked when he paid as little as 2:1, but in retrospect, I bet he had overwhelming Sheet numbers.
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