Uncle Mo faster than BC Classic field on Ragozin

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I was trying to make a point Jack.

That being said, I seem to remember this book I had as a kid called "The Way it Was". It was a sports book recounting big moments in sports, like the shot heard round the world.

I seem to remember a college team beating the pros several decades ago

You thinking a 2yo with no prior route experience stretching out to 10f and beating anything in the BC Classic is pure comedy.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

You thinking a 2yo with no prior route experience stretching out to 10f and beating anything in the BC Classic is pure comedy.

Well, most people think I am funny.

Do you really believe that a horse that can rate and stay relaxed until the very moment the jock pushes the button to go would somehow go from running what he did in the BC Juvy to losing by 30 over the same track?

It's not like he was some loose on the lead horse that stole the race and would have had to contend with a field full of speed. I find it nearly impossible to believe he would have run a 2 minutes and 8 second race with his style and ability.

[Duvalier]

Wow IC do you realize you're starting to sound just like them

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

Wow IC do you realize you're starting to sound just like them

What's so hard to imagine about Uncle Mo not running last in the BCC when the last place horse basically was distanced??

It's not like I'm saying Mo would have won the BCC for fun, in a canter!

All I'm saying is that it's ridiculous to think that with as great as he ran, he basically couldn't get an extra furlong and a half in 26 seconds! I know there's more to it than that, but to me, it's nearly impossible that he would have run last.

[Duvalier]

Sorry Charlie...the fact is if Indian Charlie wasn't Uncle Mo's sire you wouldn't even be making some of the ridiculous claims you've been making lately. You're trying to say Uncle Mo a 2yo who never ran a route of ground and is still growing and developing would've been pretty much right there if he had run in the BC Classic...you're smarter than that.

[cakes44]

I can't even imagine Uncle Mo beating QR at 1 1/16, much less 1 1/4. Uncle Mo is a very good, borderline great 2-year-old, but we are talking about different animals here.

[randallscott35]

So I go away for the weekend, and the dumb argument dujour is would a 2yr old have won the classic? Is this to support Doug's argument that Mo should be HOY?---OCD on Moss, Unlce Mo, the Pats etc...As if there is nothing else.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by cakes44

I can't even imagine Uncle Mo beating QR at 1 1/16, much less 1 1/4. Uncle Mo is a very good, borderline great 2-year-old, but we are talking about different animals here.

Dude, QR ran dead last by 30 lengths last week. Clearly he's not the same horse he was in the beginning of the year.

I never suggested that Mo would have beaten QR if QR had run in the Juvy either.

Again, QR ran dead last by 30 lengths. Something is obviously amiss with him.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

Sorry Charlie...the fact is if Indian Charlie wasn't Uncle Mo's sire you wouldn't even be making some of the ridiculous claims you've been making lately. You're trying to say Uncle Mo a 2yo who never ran a route of ground and is still growing and developing would've been pretty much right there if he had run in the BC Classic...you're smarter than that.

That he is a son of Indian Charlie, yes, affects my being a bigger fan of this horse.

It in no way clouds my judgment of his abilities.

And NO! I am not saying he would have been right there at the finish. I am simply saying that he would not have finished last! How is beating a horse that lost by 30 lengths the same thing as being 'right there' at the finish???

What is so difficult to believe about that? The closest thing to crazy that I've said is that he would have been closer to the winner than to the loser, at the end of the race. And that, that's not really that far fetched.

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

That he is a son of Indian Charlie, yes, affects my being a bigger fan of this horse.

It in no way clouds my judgment of his abilities.

And NO! I am not saying he would have been right there at the finish. I am simply saying that he would not have finished last!

What is so difficult to believe about that? The closest thing to crazy that I've said is that he would have been closer to the winner than to the loser, at the end of the race. And that, that's not really that far fetched.

But yet you say Zenyatta would've finished third in the juvenile? That he is a son of Indian Charlie affects your rationale...a 2yo running in the Classic...you're sounding just like the fans you rail against

[alysheba4]

i hope this horse stays healthy, and if he improves as a 3 yr. old it will be scary.

[Thunder Gulch]

I don't think he would hit the classic board by any stretch, but Mo was the best, easiest winner I can remember, and many had this juvenile field as above average going in.

[randallscott35]

A shame that BoysAT is being overlooked for the race he ran. No it wasn't MO quality but it was a very very good race.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

A shame that BoysAT is being overlooked for the race he ran. No it wasn't MO quality but it was a very very good race.

Why is it a shame? He was second best, what does he deserve? He wont be much next year....

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Why is it a shame? He was second best, what does he deserve? He wont be much next year....

Shame may be the wrong word. All I can say is I thought they both ran great. Obviously MO ran a hole in the wind.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Shame may be the wrong word. All I can say is I thought they both ran great. Obviously MO ran a hole in the wind.

I agree, he was born in the wrong year it would seem.

They'll both be cozy in their stalls when the Derby rolls around any way.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

A shame that BoysAT is being overlooked for the race he ran. No it wasn't MO quality but it was a very very good race.

I thought he ran a great race myself. Considering the circumstances.