11/13 (CD): Commonwealth Turf S. (G3)

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Mike

Can anyone comment intelligently on Uareoutlaw ?

Maker was in love with him when he first started training the horse back in the Summer.
Here lately he isn't beaming with confidence about him.

I ask him where he thought he would run and he simply said...."7th"

So who knows?
I am looking forward to seeing what he has on his natural surface.
One of those deals where I wouldn't be shocked if he won or ran last.

I do know that this is Maker's first experience with bring a horse over/ from South America...so I think he is learning with the horse also.

[Mike]

I Googled away on Uareoutlaw(not to find much, except they wanted a prep for the Indiana Derby, had contemplated the King's Bishop-both dirt races as you know. High hopes they must have had for him). I'm going to take a shot with him today on the turf

[The Bid]

Don't fall for the cold water.

[Mike]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Don't fall for the cold water.

I'm not sure why I reach for the mystery horses I figure they are the one's who offer the value, because there are never any speed figs alongside their pp's. The Euro turf horses are well documented, and there are even Timeform and Racing Post ratings.
In one of the early Beyer books, he explained that some of these South American "Grade I" races were not at all equivalent to North American and European graded races
Andy Serling also responded to a questioner recently(not sure if it was here or the NYRA "chat") regarding a Breeders Cup horse that made me think this type of wager was either a sucker bet, or worse, a wager made by someone throwing in the towel, as in "If I'm clueless with all the information available to me, I might as well take a stab at some mystery longshot"
I haven't made a wager like this since Espoir City

[my miss storm cat]