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Old 11-09-2010, 06:51 PM
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I automatically thought of Brett Prebble but since a lot of people don't really know who he is over here I'll say Fallon.

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Old 11-09-2010, 06:58 PM
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I automatically thought of Brett Prebble but since a lot of people don't really know who he is over here I'll say Fallon.

Masterful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHXc1...eature=related
You follow Euro racing and I wanted to ask someone who did but is it true that Murtagh is being ditched by Ballydoyle? I saw something yesterday that said Christophe Soumillon is the leading candidate to take over. I think Soumillon is a good rider.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:00 PM
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Yeah agree a very good rider.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39366

Maybe I'm crazy and Brock might have some insight but I think Fallon returns.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:41 PM
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You follow Euro racing and I wanted to ask someone who did but is it true that Murtagh is being ditched by Ballydoyle? I saw something yesterday that said Christophe Soumillon is the leading candidate to take over. I think Soumillon is a good rider.
Interesting name, Julien Leparioux has come up.
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Old 11-09-2010, 08:53 PM
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Interesting name, Julien Leparioux has come up.
I wonder if he'd even be interested. He's carved out a nice niche in America and has the backing of a few big stables. To say his Breeders' Cup was disappointing is an understatement since he rode in 12 of 14 races. It seems like he'll keep getting on decent 2YOs until they've McPeeked.
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:05 PM
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Wow you just coined a great phrase!

Bravo, Sir.
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:06 PM
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I wonder if he'd even be interested. He's carved out a nice niche in America and has the backing of a few big stables. To say his Breeders' Cup was disappointing is an understatement since he rode in 12 of 14 races. It seems like he'll keep getting on decent 2YOs until they've McPeeked.
Who exactly is he first call for?
Mcpeek is all I can think of.
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Who exactly is he first call for?
Mcpeek is all I can think of.
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Old 11-10-2010, 07:52 AM
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I wonder if he'd even be interested. He's carved out a nice niche in America and has the backing of a few big stables. To say his Breeders' Cup was disappointing is an understatement since he rode in 12 of 14 races. It seems like he'll keep getting on decent 2YOs until they've McPeeked.
It going to be an interesting decision whoever Ballydoyle/Coolmore choose.

There is precedent of US based riders going over, Gary Stevens the last when he rode for Stoute primarily. Asmussen and Cauthen earlier.

I agree that Soumillon would be a great choice, however I don't see the advantage of him uprooting his family when he has 1st call for many French Trainer's and he is basically the no.1 for the powerful Aga Khan outfit. Lateral move to me but if it happens it wouldn't surprise me either way.

There's not much out there in terms of top talent. Smullen is stuck with Weld, Hughes with Channon, Buick with Gosden, and Moore with Stoute.

Fallon probably is the most likely safest choice, though we have seen this rerun before. Leparoux is an interesting name being floated.
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Old 11-10-2010, 10:49 AM
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It suppose there's a chance that Queally and /or Heffernan are being considered.

What do you guys think?
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It going to be an interesting decision whoever Ballydoyle/Coolmore choose.

There is precedent of US based riders going over, Gary Stevens the last when he rode for Stoute primarily. Asmussen and Cauthen earlier.

I agree that Soumillon would be a great choice, however I don't see the advantage of him uprooting his family when he has 1st call for many French Trainer's and he is basically the no.1 for the powerful Aga Khan outfit. Lateral move to me but if it happens it wouldn't surprise me either way.

There's not much out there in terms of top talent. Smullen is stuck with Weld, Hughes with Channon, Buick with Gosden, and Moore with Stoute.

Fallon probably is the most likely safest choice, though we have seen this rerun before. Leparoux is an interesting name being floated.

Lemaire has first choice in France for the Aga Khan horses. I would be shocked if Soumillion didnt get it to be honest. I think he would like the job of riding top horses and having a less hectic workload here (as there wouldnt be racing everyday!).

The problem Murtagh and Kinane before him had was that they wanted to be very close to the stable, riding work in the mornings and getting to know the horses that way. With Coolmore this didnt happen and they got more and more frustrated with the fact that they were simply riding afternoons and taking orders.

I can't see Fallon returning and none of the English based jocks scream out to me as being the type. I would be shocked if Heffernan and O'Donoghue would be deemed good enough either so it leads me to Soumillion!!
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Old 11-16-2010, 09:44 AM
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Lemaire has first choice in France for the Aga Khan horses. I would be shocked if Soumillion didnt get it to be honest. I think he would like the job of riding top horses and having a less hectic workload here (as there wouldnt be racing everyday!).

The problem Murtagh and Kinane before him had was that they wanted to be very close to the stable, riding work in the mornings and getting to know the horses that way. With Coolmore this didnt happen and they got more and more frustrated with the fact that they were simply riding afternoons and taking orders.

I can't see Fallon returning and none of the English based jocks scream out to me as being the type. I would be shocked if Heffernan and O'Donoghue would be deemed good enough either so it leads me to Soumillion!!
Brock, Lemaire signed a 2 year contract with the Aga Khan, after Soumillion made a crack about Fabre's height or something to that effect and was sacked thereafter. I would wager there's a good chance Soumillion may be back as the No.1 for the Aga Khan after next year when his penalty is served. He The Aga Khan and Alain de Royer-Dupre have had great successes together, interesting thought what had he had ridden Sarafina in the arc? He also rode Reggane to victory in the EP Taylor for Dupre, obvious connection between the 2.
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Old 11-17-2010, 04:58 PM
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Lemaire has first choice in France for the Aga Khan horses. I would be shocked if Soumillion didnt get it to be honest. I think he would like the job of riding top horses and having a less hectic workload here (as there wouldnt be racing everyday!).

The problem Murtagh and Kinane before him had was that they wanted to be very close to the stable, riding work in the mornings and getting to know the horses that way. With Coolmore this didnt happen and they got more and more frustrated with the fact that they were simply riding afternoons and taking orders.

I can't see Fallon returning and none of the English based jocks scream out to me as being the type. I would be shocked if Heffernan and O'Donoghue would be deemed good enough either so it leads me to Soumillion!!
I still think it could be Heffenan or Queally (Had thought maybe Fallon but then I read they hadn't spoken in the past 6 months , so...).

CSC made a good point about Soumillon and the unlikelihood of him uprooting his family.

Taking it one step further, he just accepted the Yasutoshi Ikee offer in Japan.

Granted that only goes until the end of December but wouldn't it be in poor form to accept if he were about to say yes to AOB?
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