Valiant loss puts Zenyatta's prowess in perspective

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Fear is fear. They were afraid of losing then or later in the year. Must everything be a hedge?

We already discussed this.

WE are all fully entitled to disagree with their ideas, race selections etc.... But they wanted to win HOTY and thought the best way to do it was to win the Classic. So they structured her campaign in the way they thought maximized her chances of delivering the best race she was capable of at age 6 on BC day.

Now that they've lost, we are all free to second guess their decisions and suggest what might have worked better. But I understand their thinking even if I don't agree on all the details.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

We already discussed this.

WE are all fully entitled to disagree with their ideas, race selections etc.... But they wanted to win HOTY and thought the best way to do it was to win the Classic. So they structured her campaign in the way they thought maximized her chances of delivering the best race she was capable of at age 6 on BC day.

Now that they've lost, we are all free to second guess their decisions and suggest what might have worked better. But I understand their thinking even if I don't agree on all the details.

The point is they were afraid of racing against Rail Trip in the Hollywood Gold Cup. We can each interpret in in our own ways or speculate the reasons why. But it doesn't change the main point, which is that they did not want to run against him specifically in that race.

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

The point is they were afraid of racing against Rail Trip in the Hollywood Gold Cup. We can each interpret in in our own ways or speculate the reasons why. But it doesn't change the main point, which is that they did not want to run against him specifically in that race.

I think we could probably make a long list of connections that avoided other horses in specific races because they didn't want to meet them until the end of the season or in a specific key race.

I guess we have a different definition of fear.

I define it as not wanting to face an opponent because you are afraid of losing to them. That was not the case here. They simply wanted to meet and pummel him later.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

I think we could probably make a long list of connections that avoided other horses in specific races because they didn't want to meet them until the end of the season or in a specific key race.

I guess we have a different definition of fear.

I define it as not wanting to face an opponent because you are afraid of losing to them. That was not the case here. They simply wanted to meet and pummel him later.

Who cares about the other connections? No one is talking about them. We're talking about specific connections that avoided a specific race and the excuse they used was another horse was "the highest mountain" and they didn't want to face him.

I'm going by what they said. Feel free to go by whatever you'd like. Had they made mention of her not being 100% or something else, okay. That didn't happen. Even if they were just looking to pad her record (a real distinct possibility) that would mean they were afraid to face him because they thought he could beat her.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Who cares about the other connections? No one is talking about them. We're talking about specific connections that avoided a specific race and the excuse they used was another horse was "the highest mountain" and they didn't want to face him.

I'm going by what they said. Feel free to go by whatever you'd like. Had they made mention of her not being 100% or something else, okay. That didn't happen. Even if they were just looking to pad her record (a real distinct possibility) that would mean they were afraid to face him because they thought he could beat her.

Ugh, thanks for making me read his post Hoss. I guess I did that to BTW earlier, so fair is fair.

I really love the part though, about they didn't want to pummel Rail Trip now. They wanted to save that pummeling for later on! How precious is that?

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Ugh, thanks for making me read his post Hoss. I guess I did that to BTW earlier, so fair is fair.

I really love the part though, about they didn't want to pummel Rail Trip now. They wanted to save that pummeling for later on! How precious is that?

Read his post on the 'best female' thread … about 500 times … you dumb tool.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Read his post on the 'best female' thread … about 500 times … you dumb tool.

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