Privman: Let the Horse of the Year Debate Begin

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

On the NYRA replay show tonight, Serling is almost laughing at Donovan when Donovan is trying to make a case for Z to be HOY.....
Its pretty funny.

What are they wearing?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

What are they wearing?

Serling is dressed to impress.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

What are they wearing?

When you quote that poster it defeats the purpose that the ignore feature serves for most posters here. But, since I saw what he posted, let me respond....


.....I saw another example of why he's on ignore. I didn't laugh at Eric. I disagreed with him.

[MisterB]

Blind Luck will be robbed if he doesn't get. Get it?

[MisterB]

Blame will be robbed if he doesn't get it. Get it?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

When you quote that poster it defeats the purpose that the ignore feature serves for most posters here. But, since I saw what he posted, let me respond....


.....I saw another example of why he's on ignore. I didn't laugh at Eric. I disagreed with him.

Almost is what I wrote, and you had a huge huge SMILE ON YOUR FACE.
Why is everything a big deal?

[slotdirt]

That was just painful to read. When did Privman morph into Hovdey?

[justindew]

I'd vote for Blame first, then Glodikova, then Uncle Mo, then Zenyatta. I think Blame will win, but Team Blame probably ought to cut back on the "we are Horse of the Year....she had her chance" stuff. I think it's gonna rub some voters the wrong way.

Who the hell will get Champion Turf Male?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by justindew

I'd vote for Blame first, then Glodikova, then Uncle Mo, then Zenyatta. I think Blame will win, but Team Blame probably ought to cut back on the "we are Horse of the Year....she had her chance" stuff. I think it's gonna rub some voters the wrong way.

Who the hell will get Champion Turf Male?

Who cares?

[justindew]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Who cares?

You are brilliant.

[Indian Charlie]

And people were naive enough to think that once Zenyatta lost, the Zenyattardism was going to die down!

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Who cares?

....who cares with any of it....

[blackthroatedwind]

First of all, and this has come up fairly often, the author does not write the headline. Secondly, what is the problem with Jay's article? It wasn't biased. It presented the story.

This whole thing has become beyond boorish, but Jay had a job to do, and I fail to see how he did it poorly. He didn't take sides.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by justindew

I'd vote for Blame first, then Glodikova, then Uncle Mo, then Zenyatta. I think Blame will win, but Team Blame probably ought to cut back on the "we are Horse of the Year....she had her chance" stuff. I think it's gonna rub some voters the wrong way.

Who the hell will get Champion Turf Male?

Gio Ponti, he was solid this year.

Majesticperfection sprinter?

[slotdirt]

And after reading the comments in the Jason Shandler article, I'm now 100 percent positive Blame isn't going to win horse of the year. I can only imagine the girl power outrage if Blame gets what he rightfully deserves. Joe Drape, Jay Privman, Jay Hovdey, and their ilk won't have the balls to do the right thing and go against the masses. It's over folks, Zenyatta is your 2010 horse of the year.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

And after reading the comments in the Jason Shandler article, I'm now 100 percent positive Blame isn't going to win horse of the year. I can only imagine the girl power outrage if Blame gets what he rightfully deserves. Joe Drape, Jay Privman, Jay Hovdey, and their ilk won't have the balls to do the right thing and go against the masses. It's over folks, Zenyatta is your 2010 horse of the year.

If someone offered me 2-1, I'd bet on Zenyatta. Would not surprise me in the least if she won.

[prudery]

As long as HOY is an opinion and there are no clear cut RULE or RULES as clinically deliniated as some of those who have no " emotions " feel they have enhanced their opinions with, this is exactly what will continue .

Even the biggest idiots and those deemed tards can see which neck ,nose ,length or football field passed the wire first .

Without said guidelines, an opinion other than yours--discounting of course flatulent yays and nays from both side--need not be tossed in the garbage .

Handle and tv ratings soared big this year, and I assure you it had nothing to do with Blame--and all of that is FACT .

I can not see from an unemotional standpoint that that is a deterrent to the sport--far from it .

Does anything say that counts for anything for HOY--nothing .

And nothing says it doesn't .

[philcski]

Originally Posted by prudery

Handle and tv ratings soared big this year, and I assure you it had nothing to do with Blame--and all of that is FACT .

No... it had everything to do with it being on real, actual DIRT at Churchill Downs. Nothing else.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

To say there isn't at least a debate for HOY is silly.

Personally, if I had a vote, I would not vote for Blame.

I would be seriously conflicted between Zenyatta and Uncle Mo. Had Zenyatta run in either the Hollywood Gold Cup or Pacific Classic or Goodwood - I would strongly favor Zenyatta. Just a single one of those three races she avoided at home!

I would cast a vote for the hopeless Uncle Mo out of protest.

Favorite Trick was awarded Horse of the Year as a 2yo over Skip Away, Formal Gold, and Gentlemen. Uncle Mo - in my opinion - is a better 2yo than Favorite Trick was. Blame - in my opinion - would get absolutely slaughtered by Skip Away, Formal Gold, and Gentlemen. I mean slaughtered. They're all faster early, faster middle, and faster late than Blame.

Blame's campaign was also too weak and chicken sh!t. His campaign actually made Zenyatta's appear somewhat brave.

His performances were all very weak in relation to past division champions for older males. I believe he will win Horse of the Year because his wins in the Whitney and BC Classic came at the expense of the two toughest fields assembled for a horse racing in America this year.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by justindew

I'd vote for Blame first, then Glodikova, then Uncle Mo, then Zenyatta. I think Blame will win, but Team Blame probably ought to cut back on the "we are Horse of the Year....she had her chance" stuff. I think it's gonna rub some voters the wrong way.

Who the hell will get Champion Turf Male?

So Zenyatta's camp are the only ones allowed to try to persuade voters then.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

First of all, and this has come up fairly often, the author does not write the headline. Secondly, what is the problem with Jay's article? It wasn't biased. It presented the story.

This whole thing has become beyond boorish, but Jay had a job to do, and I fail to see how he did it poorly. He didn't take sides.

He may not have written the headline, but he took the angle that there is equal validity to both sides of the HOY 'debate' when there isn't. Ask any trainer other than John Shirreffs and they'll tell you who the winner is. Same thing with any owner outside of the Mosses. He also writes in the article 'There would be no debate had Zenyatta gotten up in the Classic.' So if a head makes that much difference in one direction, how come it doesn't in the other direction? The ESPN guys were smart enough to say after the race on Saturday that Blame should and will be HOY. Privman won't go that far for some reason.

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

To say there isn't at least a debate for HOY is silly.

Personally, if I had a vote, I would not vote for Blame.

I would be seriously conflicted between Zenyatta and Uncle Mo.

Enough. Are you really one of the people who thinks it should be for the best horse and not the most accomplished? Uncle Mo and Zenyatta are both great, but both of their ontrack accomplishments are dwarfed by Blame's this year.