Sheikh Mo and Bernardini

[Hwjb]

Originally Posted by Slewbopper

Call it karma. I am trying my damnedest not to be political, but regarding the people involved I find that impossible.

I am trying my damnedest not to be political when on this message board, but regarding the people involved (Americans) I find that very difficult. I do pretty well most of the time though.


I'm no Buddhist but I'm fairly sure there aint nothing Karmic about animals suffering for the supposed sins of their masters.

[blackthroatedwind]

It's simply a numbers thing....they have a ton of horses so it's not surprising they have a fairly high number of " tragedies ".

Obviously if Bernardini is retired after this year it is to protect him against a fatal racing related injury...so what's next...." We have the best 2YO ever, he's far too valuable to risk racing so we are going to retire him now ".

I can hardly wait.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's simply a numbers thing....they have a ton of horses so it's not surprising they have a fairly high number of " tragedies ".

Obviously if Bernardini is retired after this year it is to protect him against a fatal racing related injury...so what's next...." We have the best 2YO ever, he's far too valuable to risk racing so we are going to retire him now ".

I can hardly wait.

They should make a Kentucky derby and Triple Crown part II for 4yo's to keep the good ones around!

[repent]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

They should make a Kentucky derby and Triple Crown part II for 4yo's to keep the good ones around!

they do.

Its called the Whitney, Woodward, and Jockey Club Gold Cup.

if winning a Grade 1 at Saratoga or at the Fall Championship meet is not enough for an owner to keep a horse in training as a 4YO, no race will.

on the west coast, theres the the triple that Lava Man accomplished this year.



Repent

I really don't have a problem with Sheikh Mohammed retiring Bernardini. I have a problem with him being praised for anything. And that has everything to do with human rights. I find it nearly impossible to not include politics into discussion when Dubai treats most of their population like indentured servants.


All the best to the horse. It's a shame he isn't owned by someone with a soul.

[Slewbopper]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I really don't have a problem with Sheikh Mohammed retiring Bernardini. I have a problem with him being praised for anything. And that has everything to do with human rights. I find it nearly impossible to not include politics into discussion when Dubai treats most of their population like indentured servants.


All the best to the horse. It's a shame he isn't owned by someone with a soul.

Thank you PP. Exactly my sentiments.

[SniperSB23]

God forbid we actually keep a horse in training that we might be able to market the sport around next year. But of course, the Sheikhs don't care about that and because of that I don't care for them or their horses. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt until they retire Bernardini but that will be my attitude if they do.

[georgewashington]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I really don't have a problem with Sheikh Mohammed retiring Bernardini. I have a problem with him being praised for anything. And that has everything to do with human rights. I find it nearly impossible to not include politics into discussion when Dubai treats most of their population like indentured servants.


All the best to the horse. It's a shame he isn't owned by someone with a soul.

Spoken like somebody who has never been to Dubai. Don't talk about something that you know little about. You sound ignorant. Dubai is not Saudi Arabia. I have been there numerous times and it is not anything like you are trying to make it out to be.

You are basically disguising your racist comments, in a polite way. To say somebody does not have a soul is disgusting. Have you ever met the owners? Let me guess, probably not.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by georgewashington

Spoken like somebody who has never been to Dubai. Don't talk about something that you know little about. You sound ignorant. Dubai is not Saudi Arabia. I have been there numerous times and it is not anything like you are trying to make it out to be.

You are basically disguising your racist comments, in a polite way. To say somebody does not have a soul is disgusting. Have you ever met the owners? Let me guess, probably not.

So George...how long did you live there? I ask cause I did, not visit and stay in a hotel and see what folks wanted me to see...live among the people???? If you've done that then one of us must be delusional at best cause I don't remember it that way!!!

[georgewashington]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

So George...how long did you live there? I ask cause I did, not visit and stay in a hotel and see what folks wanted me to see...live among the people???? If you've done that then one of us must be delusional at best cause I don't remember it that way!!!

I did not live there. I have been there 4 times. Once for 2 weeks and the other 3 times for 1 week.

I think it is hilarious how you people attack them, but you have no problem going out and buying goods, like your sneakers, made from slave labor, if it saves you a dollar. The hypocrisy is disgusting.

You people complain about human rights but you look the other way when it is your money.

Here is a question for you, why do you gamble on horse racing knowing much of the labor in the business live in terrible living conditions and are paid poorly? If they made the takeout 50% and used the additional takeout to pay workers more and give them better wages, would you complain?

How about when building your new homes. A $200,000 home would cost you $300,000 if the labor was paid market value, but you have no problem with cheap labor when it benefits you.

Please don't tell me you don't buy goods made by slave labor. Everyone does. How about your food? Do you buy exclusively higher priced free range foods or do you look the other way knowing the way chickens are treated?

Lastly, you gamble on horse racing, but do you know what happens to many of these horses?

Why don't we stick to horse racing and stop criticizing people that act much like we all do. The hypocrisy stinks here.

Originally Posted by georgewashington

I did not live there. I have been there 4 times. Once for 2 weeks and the other 3 times for 1 week.

I think it is hilarious how you people attack them, but you have no problem going out and buying goods, like your sneakers, made from slave labor, if it saves you a dollar. The hypocrisy is disgusting.

You people complain about human rights but you look the other way when it is your money.

Here is a question for you, why do you gamble on horse racing knowing much of the labor in the business live in terrible living conditions and are paid poorly? If they made the takeout 50% and used the additional takeout to pay workers more and give them better wages, would you complain?

How about when building your new homes. A $200,000 home would cost you $300,000 if the labor was paid market value, but you have no problem with cheap labor when it benefits you.

Please don't tell me you don't buy goods made by slave labor. Everyone does. How about your food? Do you buy exclusively higher priced free range foods or do you look the other way knowing the way chickens are treated?

Lastly, you gamble on horse racing, but do you know what happens to many of these horses?

Why don't we stick to horse racing and stop criticizing people that act much like we all do. The hypocrisy stinks here.

How about the camel jockeys scandal right now. Any words of wisdom on how we should think about that mess?

Originally Posted by georgewashington

I did not live there. I have been there 4 times. Once for 2 weeks and the other 3 times for 1 week.

I think it is hilarious how you people attack them, but you have no problem going out and buying goods, like your sneakers, made from slave labor, if it saves you a dollar. The hypocrisy is disgusting.

You people complain about human rights but you look the other way when it is your money.

Here is a question for you, why do you gamble on horse racing knowing much of the labor in the business live in terrible living conditions and are paid poorly? If they made the takeout 50% and used the additional takeout to pay workers more and give them better wages, would you complain?

How about when building your new homes. A $200,000 home would cost you $300,000 if the labor was paid market value, but you have no problem with cheap labor when it benefits you.

Please don't tell me you don't buy goods made by slave labor. Everyone does. How about your food? Do you buy exclusively higher priced free range foods or do you look the other way knowing the way chickens are treated?

Lastly, you gamble on horse racing, but do you know what happens to many of these horses?

Why don't we stick to horse racing and stop criticizing people that act much like we all do. The hypocrisy stinks here.

Suggestion ...

... change your site name to karlmarx.

Originally Posted by Cardus

You forgot about the part that many of the backstretch help are either visa overstays or who snuck into the country without regard for our immigration laws.

Don't confuse him with facts.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Cardus

You forgot about the part that many of the backstretch help are either visa overstays or who snuck into the country without regard for our immigration laws.

Or the part about them making 10 times what they were making in their "cultured" countries.

Originally Posted by georgewashington

Spoken like somebody who has never been to Dubai. Don't talk about something that you know little about. You sound ignorant. Dubai is not Saudi Arabia. I have been there numerous times and it is not anything like you are trying to make it out to be.

You are basically disguising your racist comments, in a polite way. To say somebody does not have a soul is disgusting. Have you ever met the owners? Let me guess, probably not.

When you met the owners did you bow and say your highness?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by oracle80

When you met the owners did you bow and say your highness?

And yeah...I've not only met them, I've met them in a slightly different capacity than I suspect you have!

Originally Posted by somerfrost

And yeah...I've not only met them, I've met them in a slightly different capacity than I suspect you have!

Somer that post wasn't aimed at you.

[georgewashington]

Originally Posted by oracle80

When you met the owners did you bow and say your highness?

Never met them. What is the difference between calling them your highness and somebody calling the President, Mr. President?

I laugh how people act like there is no class structure in America. In fact, the american class structure is worse than anywhere in the world.

I guess George Washington, the founder of our country, having slaves was ok. How about Thomas Jefferson?

How many countries have slave owners that are on their money or have cities named after them?

I don't knock other cultures and people because I understand that is their culture.

Last I checked Americans complain about $3 a gallon gas, and are willing to deal with dictators as long as it means their gas will go down to $2.

Enough with the comments about these people. It is nothing but racism.

Originally Posted by georgewashington

Never met them. What is the difference between calling them your highness and somebody calling the President, Mr. President?

I laugh how people act like there is no class structure in America. In fact, the american class structure is worse than anywhere in the world.

I guess George Washington, the founder of our country, having slaves was ok. How about Thomas Jefferson?

How many countries have slave owners that are on their money or have cities named after them?

I don't knock other cultures and people because I understand that is their culture.

Last I checked Americans complain about $3 a gallon gas, and are willing to deal with dictators as long as it means their gas will go down to $2.

Enough with the comments about these people. It is nothing but racism.

So you can talk down to people who you don't feel are "important enough" by your social or monetary standards, but noone else can speak ill about anyone who isnt white or its racism? Thats not logical.

Originally Posted by georgewashington

Never met them. What is the difference between calling them your highness and somebody calling the President, Mr. President?

I laugh how people act like there is no class structure in America. In fact, the american class structure is worse than anywhere in the world.

I guess George Washington, the founder of our country, having slaves was ok. How about Thomas Jefferson?

How many countries have slave owners that are on their money or have cities named after them?

I don't knock other cultures and people because I understand that is their culture.

Last I checked Americans complain about $3 a gallon gas, and are willing to deal with dictators as long as it means their gas will go down to $2.

Enough with the comments about these people. It is nothing but racism.

Comparing George Washington to Sheikh Mohammed is laughable. You have to go back to the eighteenth century to justify Sheikh Mohammed's actions.

LMAO.