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06-11-2006, 08:05 PM
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06-11-2006, 10:53 PM
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I thought he looked fantastic. He's such a beauty. And I was impressed that when King's Drama challenged, he just dug in and kept going.
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06-11-2006, 10:56 PM
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It was a great day for me.  Last edited by Lastkidpickedingymclass : 06-11-2006 at 11:00 PM.
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06-11-2006, 11:08 PM
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mISS fatal.
If you think Brother Derek is a pig because of his "poor" showings in the TC races, you too are a short term thinker with no patience. Unless something is physically wrong with this horse, and if he keeps proper development, you WILL hear from this horse again. He will be givin a good rest, and barring injury, this horse will be a force. The tide will turn in the other direction and you will be eating your pork oinks. What goes around comes around. Now that the hyped up TC is over, we got horses coming in for big stakes races that avoided the rigor of all, or most of the TC races. And we got the horses that ran that will be rested waiting for later stakes and a BC chance that are very talented like BD. The storm looms. As far as Lava Man goes, he has not looked too great outside Cali, but I still have a soft spot for these tough guys.
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06-12-2006, 12:26 AM
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Is there ANY doubt that if you compared west coast horses going east and winning compared to the other way around (either 2006 or going back 1 year) that the westerners would hold at least a 2, or 3/1 advantage? And how is it that once a Cacique or Grey Swallow goes east and beats the eastern chump (English Channel), now they're adopted as eastern horses and Lava hasn't faced the likes of such.
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06-12-2006, 03:05 AM
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Winning on both dirt and grass trumps the inside-outside California blemish. Are there two surfaces more different than dirt and grass? That is, would winning on dirt in both Calif and NY be more impressive than winning Gr I's on dirt and grass in Calif? Not IMO.
It's not like he's been scoring these wins while running slowly. He's tied for 2nd best Beyer of the year on dirt, behind only Sinister Minister's Keenland-aided 116. On grass, no horse has a better Beyer than Lava Man's 108 in the Whittingham. I love the horse even though he's cost me money. I bet him in that NY race last year, and my BC future on Lava Man became instantly worthless at the same time. If there were a Horse-Of-the-Half-Year award, it would have to be Lava Man. But lots of things can happen in the 2nd half of the year. I noticed, for example, that Flower Alley put in a very nice work yesterday or the day before. --Dunbar
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06-11-2006, 03:27 PM
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Didnt really matter, he would have beat this field in any such pace scenario over any track bias. A horse came to him on the far turn and he swatted him away like a mosquito. Hes a very special horse in this day in age of the sport, where hardly any top quality horse runs on both turf & dirt, and hangs around to his age.
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06-11-2006, 04:20 PM
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That's awful slow for a 1/4 (pedestrian). My grandma does that. 
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06-11-2006, 06:05 PM
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You cant just watch one race at a track without knowing how fast a course or track has been playing and accurately compare it with a soft deep course across the country. Lava race was nice yeah, but he sure didnt meet much, and you must be crazy to actually call him the best older horse. See the thing is I seem to remember that horse coming east last year to th eJCGC and dead heating with the ambulance. He beat horses of a much lesser qulaity yesterday. I suppose on the weeds out there hes the best. But tell him to give EC, RG, GS, and cacique a ring if he wants to meet the best. I absolutely love that horse though, too bad so many of these California wonder horses lose the wings they seem to have once they step on a plane and head east. WOnder why, hmmmmmm???
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06-11-2006, 06:08 PM
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Oh and balance sure set the world on fire when she shipped east, hmmm. Care to enlighten me which Socals have made an impact this year on teh national scene? Cause quite frankly, other than Bordanaro and LITF, both sprinters, I cant think of any.
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06-11-2006, 06:30 PM
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Get glasses. The man quotes 45 something for the quarter. Now I know he made a mistake (or at least i think so) but most quarters are run in the 20's. Oracle is right.He beat little in the Whittingham; and his trip out here to "real horsie country" didn't change my mind. By the way, I may be dense, but what is "ploy track"?
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06-11-2006, 06:01 PM
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Anyone talk about the call in the stretch for Lava Man?
They were laughing hysterically in the Club House at Ellis. It was great!
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