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Old 11-07-2010, 09:01 PM
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You weren't at Churchill yesterday were you?
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Old 11-07-2010, 09:19 PM
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For everybody at CHD it was a great experience. It should have been a great experience for everybody in racing to see a mare like that give us an encore.


Blame season more accomplished...Yes. Blame do more for racing..Nah. Blame a better horse, I really don't think he is. My opinion and yours may not matter, but the writers who will make the decision wont be quick to dismiss Zenyatta off that effort.

You jabbing at me about not being able to tell the difference between the two fillies, one being good, one being great.... They are both great. Goldikova may be the best grass miler to ever breath, and Zenyatta may be the best mare to ever stand in a gate
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Old 11-07-2010, 09:32 PM
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For everybody at CHD it was a great experience. It should have been a great experience for everybody in racing to see a mare like that give us an encore.


Blame season more accomplished...Yes. Blame do more for racing..Nah. Blame a better horse, I really don't think he is. My opinion and yours may not matter, but the writers who will make the decision wont be quick to dismiss Zenyatta off that effort.

You jabbing at me about not being able to tell the difference between the two fillies, one being good, one being great.... They are both great. Goldikova may be the best grass miler to ever breath, and Zenyatta may be the best mare to ever stand in a gate
You say this like you jumped into racing in 2007. Don't you think that there has been great days at the races before? You dont think that the people freezing their asses off the year Persoanl Ensign ran down Winning Colors had a great experience?

This entire "do for racing" thing is a crock of ****. It is sad when some phony, bs stories become more important than what happens on the track.

I was jabbing you because you still dont understand why one gets respect and the other one doesn't and from your last sentence you still dont.

As Joey (the non stupid one) pointed out in another thread, the 07 NE pats arent the greatest football team ever just as Zenyatta surely isnt the greatest mare to ever step in a gate. She wasnt even the best filly to run yesterday at CD...
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Old 11-07-2010, 09:30 PM
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Bid, before I had got arthritis and asthma, I spent plenty of time at tracks; it was watching these splendid animals running that inspired me to start investigating pedigrees. I saw Ack Ack during his HotY campaign, in 1971. HE had a wonderful campaign that was unfortunately cut short when he nearly died of colic. Everyone had him pegged as a miler, but the great Bald Eagle trained him to win the Santa Anita H under 130 lbs and the Hollywood Gold Cup under 134 lbs.

John Henry earned his first Eclipse as a champion turf horse, as a 5yo. As a 6yo, he moved up a level by taking his game to the main track, winning the Jockey Club Gold Cup and Santa Anita H to earn his first HotY.

These talented horses' connections could have kept doing the same old thing with their horses, miling and sprinting, or running on turf, but that wouldn't get them HotY except maybe in an unusual year, so they risked failure by trying the hardest, ultimate division, open company at 10f on dirt. This is what American racing has always been about, not sprinting, not mares' races, not turf miles, but the classic distance.

Zenayatta's campaign proved that she is the best mare who raced in the US this year, so she will get the older mare Eclipse. She was beaten by the top older male when she tried the harder division, so she is not HotY. Full stop.
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