Blame saved the historic integrity of the sport

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

His Jockey said it took her a few steps to get use to the track and he said it last night when I was talking to him in front of Jeff Ruby's.

Even if that's true, what if that hadn't happened? Would she have been sitting 5th early? She ran the same race she always runs and it wasn't good enough. Any racetrack outside of California, Blame was going to beat her yesterday. To say otherwise is unfair to him.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Even if that's true, what if that hadn't happened? Would she have been sitting 5th early? She ran the same race she always runs and it wasn't good enough. Any racetrack outside of California, Blame was going to beat her yesterday. To say otherwise is unfair to him.

I think what is fair, and we could differ on this, is that Blame was best yesterday and had a better season hands down. Anything beyond that is pure speculation.

There are a lot of factors that could come into play when a horse wins or loses by a head. We are not talking about open daylight here Joey. Maybe Blame hits a track that he doesn't like so much (he didnt seem to love belmont by the way) for the FIRST TIME, could that have made the difference of a head?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I think what is fair, and we could differ on this, is that Blame was best yesterday and had a better season hands down. Anything beyond that is pure speculation.

There are a lot of factors that could come into play when a horse wins or loses by a head. We are not talking about open daylight here Joey. Maybe Blame hits a track that he doesn't like so much (he didnt seem to love belmont by the way) for the FIRST TIME, could that have made the difference of a head?

I get it, speculation is cool when it provides an excuse for Zenyatta. The idea that Blame had the jump on her because of the racetrack should be an accepted fact. But the fact that she still looked as if she'd blow by him and he looked her in the eye and never let her past can't be extrapolated to other racetracks by me.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I get it, speculation is cool when it provides an excuse for Zenyatta. The idea that Blame had the jump on her because of the racetrack should be an accepted fact. But the fact that she still looked as if she'd blow by him and he looked her in the eye and never let her past can't be extrapolated to other racetracks by me.

I am not speculating anything. Did you once read where i said anything about Zenyatta beating Blame if it wasn't for the track?

YOU speculated that he would have won anywhere. I am merely saying that we will never know and when the difference is that small, things obviously could have gone differently. Maybe Blame wins by more on another track. Maybe he loses. I just don't see the win as being emphatic enough to say that "blame wins on any track in america". If you do, that is your perogative.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I am not speculating anything. Did you once read where i said anything about Zenyatta beating Blame if it wasn't for the track?

YOU speculated that he would have won anywhere. I am merely saying that we will never know and when the difference is that small, things obviously could have gone differently. Maybe Blame wins by more on another track. Maybe he loses. I just don't see the win as being emphatic enough to say that "blame wins on any track in america". If you do, that is your perogative.

This whole conversation started with people using the track as an excuse for why Blame beat her. To me, that's absurd considering how well she ran and how he still wouldn't let her go by.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

This whole conversation started with people using the track as an excuse for why Blame beat her. To me, that's absurd considering how well she ran and how he still wouldn't let her go by.

I don't disagree with you. She had every chance to go by and couldn't. Blame deserves all the credit and blaming the track is not giving enough credit to the winner. The winner dug in and earned the title.