New York Breds In BC

[philcski]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yeah Phil, where you're bred has little to do with anything.

How many of them have been a short price other than Fleet Indian?

You're talking about a lot of horses who had very little chance going in. She'sastonecoldfox types.

I can't find a complete list... but probably not many. If someone has it, it would be an interesting study.

A lot more NY Breds in the past were bred like Fourstardave: by Compliance (winner of zero races and $1,599) out of Sex Appeal (unraced) rather than Friends Lake (by AP Indy out of a G1 winning mare) or Haynesfield (by Speightstown out of a stakes winning mare.) The chances of success at a Breeders Cup level were very, very low with that type of program. It would be like a Cozar out of a Mountaineer cripple suddenly rising up to win the BC Mile today.

[horseofcourse]

Oklahoma breds win.

[DaTruth]

Labreds usually aren't much, but one had a very good chance in a couple of Distaffs a few years ago.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Labreds usually aren't much, but one had a very good chance in a couple of Distaffs a few years ago.

Rip to her.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Oklahoma breds win.

Lady's Secret is hardly your typical Oklahoma bred.

As for the other one, that's still better bred than your normal Nybred until just 6-7 years ago.

[Linny]

If Franny Freud had not been hurt she'd have been a factor in the F/M Sprint and she's by NY sire Freud, who has Deciphering Dreams in the Juvie Turf. Rightly So (F/M Sprint) is also a NY bred as is Silver Timber who is a legit candidate in the Turf Sprint.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

As for the other one, that's still better bred than your normal Nybred until just 6-7 years ago.

Cupecoy's Joy (f 1979) wasn't exactly chopped liver. Won the Acorn-G1, Mother Goose-G1, led the Kentucky Derby field for a long way until she wore out. Still finished ahead of Wavering Monarch (Haskell-G1) , Cassaleria (El Camino Real-G2), Bold Style (Rebel H) and Royal Roberto (Everglades-G3).

Mr. Right (c 1963) won the Suburban, Woodward, Santa Anita H and Dwyer, etc. (No grading in those days. People knew what the important races were, they didn't have to be told.)

Gander (g 1996) also dates to more than 6-7 years ago. He could run with the big boys.