vic off his meds..

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

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Even if it was commonplace for top mares to race till they were six, you'd be hard-pressed to find even one that could actually compete for the W in THIS particular race.

6yo mares ain't supposed to be able to hang with top colts which are two and three years younger.

That's why it will be SUPER impressive and super sweet if Z can pull this off.


Anyone with half-a-brain who follows the game could see that Azeri had no shot to win in '04 … even if the great GZ had never been entered.

I think Z has a decent shot to prevail on Sat for several reasons, but only a mad man would put her at 8/5 on the m/l.



By the way, thoroughly enjoyed your fine work ripping cons in the Politics section yesterday

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Even if it was commonplace for top mares to race till they were six, you'd be hard-pressed to find even one that could actually compete for the W in THIS particular race.

6yo mares ain't supposed to be able to hang with top colts which are two and three years younger.

For one thing, Zenyatta didn't run in the championship level races at 2 or 3, in fact she barely ran at 3 at all. So she has had 3 years of stakes campaigning. If she had been at the top level at 2 and/or 3, yes, it would be uncommon for her be racing at 6. But she didn't, so the comparison doesn't apply.

Oh, and Makybe Diva had no problem beating up on boys when she was 6 and 7, even giving them weight. A three-peat in the Melbourne Cup tops any of Zenyatta's three-peats by a mile (almost literally).

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

For one thing, Zenyatta didn't run in the championship level races at 2 or 3, in fact she barely ran at 3 at all. So she has had 3 years of stakes campaigning. If she had been at the top level at 2 and/or 3, yes, it would be uncommon for her be racing at 6. But she didn't, so the comparison doesn't apply.

Oh, and Makybe Diva had no problem beating up on boys when she was 6 and 7, even giving them weight. A three-peat in the Melbourne Cup tops any of Zenyatta's three-peats by a mile (almost literally).

I've tried the age argument with him before, and to a lesser extent, other mares beating males at top levels of competition.

I've become convinced that when reading your post, all Smoothie will see is:

Xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Zenyatta xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx championship xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx she xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx she xxxxxxxxxxxxx stakes xxxxxxxxxxx. Xx she xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx top level xxxxxxxxxxxx, yes, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx her xxxxxxxxxxxx 6. Xxx she didxxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx boys xxxx she xxx 6 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. A three-peat in the Breeders Cup xxxxxxxxxxx Zenyatta's xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

For one thing, Zenyatta didn't run in the championship level races at 2 or 3, in fact she barely ran at 3 at all. So she has had 3 years of stakes campaigning. If she had been at the top level at 2 and/or 3, yes, it would be uncommon for her be racing at 6. But she didn't, so the comparison doesn't apply.

Oh, and Makybe Diva had no problem beating up on boys when she was 6 and 7, even giving them weight. A three-peat in the Melbourne Cup tops any of Zenyatta's three-peats by a mile (almost literally).

Don't think you get what I'm saying.

Couldn't care less if the 6yo mare began her career at age two or age six … made one career start or 80 … ran in zero stakes races or 50

What I'm saying is that it's highly unlikely that a 6yo mare … any 6yo mare … even, say, PE had she hung around … would be fast enough to win the BCC.

Hell, some pretty good 6yo males (C and the lightly raced PP, in particular) have tried to win the race and failed.


Also, not sure why you brought up the MC as I specifically said this race (BCC) … even put 'this' in caps.

[Indian Charlie]

See what I mean?

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

See what I mean?

Pants told me to tell ya that he hopes you die in a fiery plane crash




LOL

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Pants told me to tell ya that he hopes you die in a fiery plane crash




LOL

Is there anything you can get straight?

When Pants said 'you' he meant you Smoothie, not me.

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Pants told me to tell ya that he hopes you die in a fiery plane crash




LOL

Isn't just the plane crash enough? Does it have to be firey?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Isn't just the plane crash enough? Does it have to be firey?

I think you are a terriffic listen and entertaining..A poorman's Watchmaker

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Isn't just the plane crash enough? Does it have to be firey?

I'll use the all time greatest witticism to reply to that.


Are you ready?

Are you sitting down?

Ok, here goes!


Sharp post.

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Isn't just the plane crash enough? Does it have to be firey?

You'll have to ask Pants when he comes back on, Vic.

Think he gets his nails done on Friday mornings.


Frankly, I'd rather see somebody take IC out to the Bermuda Triangle … run a chum line till a few great whites show up … then make him take a dip.