Pinnacle odds for Classic

[robfla]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Why does everyone look like an overlay, even Z?
Im guessing Z is around 2-1 at post time. Blame and Lucky anywhere from 3-1 to 5-1, but not 7-1. And QR anywhere from 5-1 to 8-1.

on big days the money gets a lot more spread out - but you knew that already.

interesting props @ bodog:


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How many times will Trevor Denman mention Zenyatta’s name in the race call of the Breeders’ Cup Classic?

Over 8.5 -115
Under 8.5 -115
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How many lengths will Zenyatta win the Breeder's Cup Classic by?

Zenyatta must win for wagers to have action.

Over 1.5 Lengths -115
Under 1.5 Lengths -115

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What will Zenyatta's final pari-mutuel win odds be for the Breeders' Cup Classic?

Results will be based on the official Equibase Race Chart.
Over 3/1 +115
Under 3/1 -150
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the best deal they have, is if you bet $20 AGAINST zenyatta in futures, and lose, you get your $20 bucks back in the form of a bonus.

[RockHardTen1985]

I think the only way she gets beat is if QR is back to his brillant self and bottoms the race out at the top of the stretch. If not she rolls home. I think shes lock city to run 1-2.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I think the only way she gets beat is if QR is back to his brillant self and bottoms the race out at the top of the stretch. If not she rolls home. I think shes lock city to run 1-2.

You just signed your own death sentence, what if some Zenyatta nut reads this?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Scav

You just signed your own death sentence, what if some Zenyatta nut reads this?

I have A B X for every horse running, both days...
Its yours if you want.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I have A B X for every horse running, both days...
Its yours if you want.

I have the same, and mine is better then yours

No sprouting wings prop?

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I have A B X for every horse running, both days...
Its yours if you want.

Is it just me, but isn't it a little early for deciding who are "A"s and "B"s without knowing the post position draw?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Is it just me, but isn't it a little early for deciding who are "A"s and "B"s without knowing the post position draw?

I don't think so, given the amount of horses and races, getting organized now can only help, and that isn't to say that you can't upgrade or downgrade from A to a B.

IMO, it is hard for a horse who is an 'X' to all of a sudden become playable.

What I want to know is why 'C' was left out of it

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Scav

I don't think so, given the amount of horses and races, getting organized now can only help, and that isn't to say that you can't upgrade or downgrade from A to a B.

IMO, it is hard for a horse who is an 'X' to all of a sudden become playable.

What I want to know is why 'C' was left out of it

C is not for me. A is most likely, presses... B Ill cover, X is out.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Scav

I don't think so, given the amount of horses and races, getting organized now can only help, and that isn't to say that you can't upgrade or downgrade from A to a B.

IMO, it is hard for a horse who is an 'X' to all of a sudden become playable.

What I want to know is why 'C' was left out of it

I agree that you probably can get a first cut of who are "throwouts" in a given race (and I've been working on that myself), but without knowing final post position draws and rider assignments - and the impact that they invariably have upon the pace and dynamics of a race - I don't know how one could start to determine what "contenders" are "A"s, which ones are "B"s, and which ones could become "X"s with a bad post draw. I know that I want no part of most Euros in the Mile or any of the 2YO races that draw an outside post. Similarly, it would make a big difference in the F&M Sprint or Dirt Mile if a horse in a 14-horse field drew the 1 or 2 post (with a running-style antithetical to such a post).

[Dahoss]

I might bet out on the over in the Denman prop. That bet might be locked up in the first 1/2 mile.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by robfla

How many times will Trevor Denman mention Zenyatta’s name in the race call of the Breeders’ Cup Classic?

Over 8.5 -115
Under 8.5 -115

Lock of the f'ing century.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Lock of the f'ing century.

"....and Zenyatta broke well. Zenyatta content to sit at the back early........and Zenyatta and Mike Smith are about 12 lengths behind a front-running Quality Road.....Zenyatta begins to pick it up. Zenyatta with a lot to do.....Zenyatta still back in 5th with an 1/8th of a mile to go.....Blame has won the Breeders' Cup Classic. Zenyatta could do no better than 4th today. But what a career for Zenyatta. Truly a brilliant mare."

I count 8. Under lock.

[ateamstupid]

Obviously you didn't watch this year's Hirsch.

[TitanSooner]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Obviously you didn't watch this year's Hirsch.

you've got to also factor in 6 horses vs. 12-14 horses.

i'm confident Trevor can reach 9 still, though.