Obama the racist ?

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Riot

Wow. That's only 16-20 excess. 214 needed for control, predicted the GOP will now only get 230?

Yikes.

It should have been far larger, according to the freaks at the town halls a year ago August.

Are you really trying to spin losing the house into some sort of victory for the Dems? Are you?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Are you really trying to spin losing the house into some sort of victory for the Dems? Are you?

The GOP should swamp the House and Senate. The usual result is a 40 seat switch in the House after elections at first midterm after a presidential.

But it appears the GOP has lost the Senate. It looks like they will barely get the House at this point.

Now obviously that's just what the "pundits and polls" are saying today - it could obviously go the other way (GOP gets the Senate, too, and alot more seats in the House).

But if the GOP can't retake the Senate? And barely can take the House? Historically the opposite party has never won the House and failed to win the Senate.

That's not a victory for the Dems as much as it is a tidal wave of loss for the GOP.

This should be a huge "gimme" of seats to the GOP - if the GOP can't even carry that off?

[SOREHOOF]

Why is it a gimmie? You and others like the way this country is headed and will probably vote to keep things headed the way they are. I never heard anyone say the Repubs would take the Senate, but I don't spend much time with the Huffy Poo Poo. They say it so you will see the elections as a victory no matter what happens. Lot's of Union $$ behind the Dems. A lot of Public Sector Union $$. Tax $$ in other words. The Dems will keep the Tax dollars flowing to the Unions so the Unions can keep the money headed back to Washington. Some in Law Enforcement would call that Money Laundering. If not out and out Larceny.

[Riot]

Why is it a gimmie?

Because historically it virtually always switches after an election like we had (overwhelmingly Democratic up and down the ballot). Geesh, even regular GOP positions went Dem in 2008. So those ought to automatically revert back to GOP. And then there is the typical "get the other party in" that normally happens every midterm.

Add that to the outcry and "throw the bums out" starting last year, the major recession, the Tea Party, etc. You know, the Republican Tsunami Joey has been talking about for two years?

Seriously - look at Delaware and Christine O'Donnell. That seat was a guaranteed Senate seat win for the GOP. Until she won the primary and kicked out the moderate Republican.

I never heard anyone say the Repubs would take the Senate, but I don't spend much time with the Huffy Poo Poo.

It doesn't have much to do with the Huffy Poo Poo. The political wonks have been saying it since Obama was elected, based upon the last major House/Senate switches.

It has little to do with party affiliation, or what somebody "wants" - it's just political punditry predictions based upon history.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Riot

Because historically it virtually always switches after an election like we had (overwhelmingly Democratic up and down the ballot). Geesh, even regular GOP positions went Dem in 2008. So those ought to automatically revert back to GOP. And then there is the typical "get the other party in" that normally happens every midterm.

You do realize that the average number of Senate seat pick-ups in an off year is about 2-3 so if the GOP can pick up 8-10 that's a huge win !!

[joeydb]

When the Democrats lose the House and possibly the Senate, and conservatives say now "Obama and the Democrats can sit in the back.", that will be OK, and will not be considered racist, right? Everyone agreed?

After all, all we did was change the subject of the sentence to "Obama and the Democrats" from "The Republicans", merely selecting the politically opposite group.

And we all know intellectually that whether the statement is discriminitory cannot depend on who said it.

It also cannot be racist when the author of the statement, Mr. Obama, was saying it in reference to an erroneous conclusion: that his party would retain power. When his party is actually out of power, intellectually he must accept that.

I'm sure we won't see any hysterics if someone should dare to utter the paraphrase of his original quote.

[Riot]

When the Democrats lose the House and possibly the Senate, and conservatives say now "Obama and the Democrats can sit in the back.", that will be OK, and will not be considered racist, right? Everyone agreed?

It's really sad that people today constantly demonstrate they don't know anything about civil rights history.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by geeker2

You do realize that the average number of Senate seat pick-ups in an off year is about 2-3 so if the GOP can pick up 8-10 that's a huge win !!

Absolutely. They'd control the Senate. That would be huge for the GOP. That's what was predicted last year during August.

But they've already lost that.

Looking at the 12 seats up for grabs this year (that should be "gimme" seats for the GOP this year) - they needed to win 10 of them. They can't do it.

CA has gone to Boxer for sure in the last couple days. And as of today, Joe Miller (Alaska) is suddenly losing by big definitive margins (the "I lied" thing and the handcuffing of the reporter). Murkowski (R) is a write in - but as Miller is falling, the Dem is picking up. That seat is now considered "officially lost" to Joe Miller - the question is Murkowski or Dem on election day.

Those two are the nails in the coffin (which already had several). It doesn't matter any more that Colorado (R-Buck now only up 0.4) and Illinois (R-Kirk up 4) and Nevada (crazy whackjob Angle up 3) are still up for grabs.

FiveThirtyEight predicts the Dems have 52 to 53 Senate seats now.

The GOP lost the Senate at the primaries, when the Tea Party candidates were chosen over more electable moderate GOP - now it's just a matter of how much they lose.

But the GOP will take over the House - but it seems barely. They will have a major immediate challenge after January - they will have to make a decision within three months on voting to enlarge the federal deficit so we can pay our current bills, or having us go broke and default. It will be fun to watch them backtrack.

Keep hope alive!