Flower Alley to stand for $25,000 at Three Chimneys

sumitas · #1 10-11-2006, 03:25 PM

mares devoid of Mr Prospector and Northern Dancer lines are suited to him.

Cajungator26 · #2 10-11-2006, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas

mares devoid of Mr Prospector and Northern Dancer lines are suited to him.

Harder and harder to find nowadays though, aren't they?

sumitas · #3 10-11-2006, 03:38 PM

you are correct. so he'll get many mares crossing with the Mr P and ND. the horses may run ok for a while but the breeding does not improve the breed.

#4 10-11-2006, 03:40 PM

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you are correct. so he'll get many mares crossing with the Mr P and ND. the horses may run ok for a while but the breeding does not improve the breed.

agreed.....

Danzig · #5 10-11-2006, 06:52 PM

anyone who wants distorted humor, but can't afford him, will be going after his best son to date. 10x less the stud fee, he'll fill his book. he did very well at three--it's not like very many give a rats behind what a horse does at four.

SniperSB23 · #6 10-11-2006, 08:00 PM

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anyone who wants distorted humor, but can't afford him, will be going after his best son to date. 10x less the stud fee, he'll fill his book. he did very well at three--it's not like very many give a rats behind what a horse does at four.

Third best son to date. Best intact son to date.

philcski · #7 10-11-2006, 09:32 PM

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Third best son to date. Best intact son to date.

HAHAHA! best son with two goolies attached.

#8 10-11-2006, 09:11 PM

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agreed.....

Explain. What does improve the breed mean?

#9 10-11-2006, 09:16 PM

And all I gotta say if I wanted to try and get a good race horse....

Id have a bunch of mares that had been good ON the track. A mare that had a certain male in the background would not be a priority. I would hunt down running females. Preferably those had been in a good number of tough races and lost due to circumstance, not ability.

sumitas · #10 10-11-2006, 09:59 PM

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Explain. What does improve the breed mean?

there are allready tons of horses around with ND and Mr P., Raise A Native, tripling them, quadrupling them, or more leads to even more unsoundness, albeit you may get some speed. FA has 5 Native Dancers too. Hasn't stopped breeders from going to Songandaprayer and his 3 Raise A Natives but unfortunately the soundness just isn't there.

Cajungator26 · #11 10-11-2006, 10:00 PM

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there are allready tons of horses around with ND and Mr P., Raise A Native, tripling them, quadrupling them, or more leads to even more unsoundness, albeit you may get some speed. FA has 5 Native Dancers too. Hasn't stopped breeders from going to Songandaprayer and his 3 Raise A Natives but unfortunately the soundness just isn't there.

Amen to that... it's a shame too.

#12 10-11-2006, 10:13 PM

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there are allready tons of horses around with ND and Mr P., Raise A Native, tripling them, quadrupling them, or more leads to even more unsoundness, albeit you may get some speed. FA has 5 Native Dancers too. Hasn't stopped breeders from going to Songandaprayer and his 3 Raise A Natives but unfortunately the soundness just isn't there.

I was suprised to learn that a study done at Cornell University showed that the throughbred population is not as highly inbred as they thought it would be based on all this breeding between relatives. THere is still quite a bit of diversity in the T-bred population even with all this inattention to diversity displayed by breeders trying to please the market.

I was very suprised. The soundness issue becomes even more of a mess when a bunch of males go to the shed at 3 and dont run that much. You never really know. I would use a male that had been on the track for a while. So one looks around, trys to sift through all the geldings, and you find what?

Maybe a bunch of ole boys with undesirable backgrounds. If these boys are sound, and can still run at older ages, I would give that a shot... If I really wanted a RUNNER; A horse that I planned to run for the sake of the actual intention of the sport. A real racehorse. Not a breeder. Then place the horse appropriately based on ability. And sit back and enjoy multiple years of racing with an individual horse. Thatsa what ida do. Have some fun maybe.