The Golden Syringe Award

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

JC Guerrero ran a good one off the claim a week or so ago. Claimed the horse for $16,000 and won a $75,000 PA bred stakes a few weeks later...easily.

JC "the Impaler" Guerrero is possibly having the best year of any horse trainer since John Sherriffs in 1999... in terms of actual performance and not any other BS.

There is like a run in the betting on everything he sends out - especially early on - on every single horse he sends out. If they should be 6/1 on paper they're 5/2.

[Duvalier]

It would be pretty cool to switch Guerrero's horses with George Iacovacci's stock and see what kind of subsequent results each of them get.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

It would be pretty cool to switch Guerrero's horses with George Iacovacci's stock and see what kind of subsequent results each of them get.

Believe it or not - Iacovacci did claim one off of him... though it was in Oct of '09, right before the impaler started rolling like the crimson tide.



It's best race came when it finished dead last beaten 20+ lengths while racing on a live rail at PID over a synthetic surface where it's harder for horses to lose by very wide margins.

Iacovacci's probably not as bad a trainer as he's cracked up to be. Don't get me wrong, he's a horrid trainer ... but most of his stock is like horses you assume he must have purchased for $300 out of a kill pen. A guy like Alejandro Reyes is 0-for-158 this year ... and he's got a horse like Prince Joshua in his barn... a horse who was Graded Stakes placed last year and ran a 102 Beyer right before he got him.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

JC "the Impaler" Guerrero is possibly having the best year of any horse trainer since John Sherriffs in 1999... in terms of actual performance and not any other BS.

There is like a run in the betting on everything he sends out - especially early on - on every single horse he sends out. If they should be 6/1 on paper they're 5/2.

Have you run his numbers on what happens when people claim FROM him? They're amazing.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Have you run his numbers on what happens when people claim FROM him? They're amazing.

Yeah - it's remarkable. Normally, when people claim off of these guys, the sooner you run them back ... the better. They might still have magic stuck in them two or three weeks after the claim... most of the time though, it all goes down hill from there.

If these guys were like brilliant horsemen who found something nagging a horse and fixed it without using alchemy to get that improvement - you'd think that people would do fine claiming off of those guys because the horse is over what was nagging them and the high percentage guys enter so aggressively that you'd be getting a big bargain if you get the right one off of them.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yeah - it's remarkable. Normally, when people claim off of these guys, the sooner you run them back ... the better. They might still have magic stuck in them two or three weeks after the claim... most of the time though, it all goes down hill from there.

If these guys were like brilliant horsemen who found something nagging a horse and fixed it without using alchemy to get that improvement - you'd think that people would do fine claiming off of those guys because the horse is over what was nagging them and the high percentage guys enter so aggressively that you'd be getting a big bargain if you get the right one off of them.

It's mind boggling. Guerrero over the last two years:

1st off the claim: 53%, $3.63

1st after claimed from: 3%, $0.19