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[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Arc winners are probably the worst BC bets of all.

In the past, yup... But Im not sure how that will have any affect on this years running, and this HORRIBLE CROP OF TURF HORSES.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

In the past, yup... But Im not sure how that will have any affect on this years running, and this HORRIBLE CROP OF TURF HORSES.

Huh? The phenomenon is still relevant because it's explainable - it's not random. Arc horses are prepared to run their absolute best races in the Arc and they tail off in the BC because it's a hard-to-pass-up afterthought to their connections. European horses that are pointed to the BC are the ones who do so well - the list of over-the-top Euro favorites off the board is long. The one thing that Workforce has going for him is that he's lightly raced - so he should have more left in the tank than most that fit his profile, but I'm certainly not afraid of him. I'm not planning on singling Al Khali or anything, but I'll bet out on him at 15-1+. He is infinitely better than he looks on paper.

Winning Woodbine Beyers (may be a point off):

Joshua Tree - 101
Reggane - 103
Serious Attitude - 108 (whoa)

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Huh? The phenomenon is still relevant because it's explainable - it's not random. Arc horses are prepared to run their absolute best races in the Arc and they tail off in the BC because it's a hard-to-pass-up afterthought to their connections. European horses that are pointed to the BC are the ones who do so well - the list of over-the-top Euro favorites off the board is long. The one thing that Workforce has going for him is that he's lightly raced - so he should have more left in the tank than most that fit his profile, but I'm certainly not afraid of him. I'm not planning on singling Al Khali or anything, but I'll bet out on him at 15-1+. He is infinitely better than he looks on paper.

Winning Woodbine Beyers (may be a point off):

Joshua Tree - 101
Reggane - 103
Serious Attitude - 108 (whoa)

Winners haven't done well, though Trempolino was photoed by the mighty Theatrical, but runners up are a different story. The Aga Khan horse coming over will drown the likes of Al Khali.

I feel your pain, and he probably should have won today, but the BC field will be much tougher. Do you even think he'll run?

I was surprised Garcia was back aboard after last time. I watched that race with Mott. I can't believe he rode him back.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Winners haven't done well, though Trempolino was photoed by the mighty Theatrical, but runners up are a different story. The Aga Khan horse coming over will drown the likes of Al Khali.

I feel your pain, and he probably should have won today, but the BC field will be much tougher. Do you even think he'll run?

I was surprised Garcia was back aboard after last time. I watched that race with Mott. I can't believe he rode him back.

Bekhabad? He's good, but I'll take my chances with a horse who will be 4x the price at least. I like Plumania more if she runs there.

I assume he'll run. . . why not?

From my experience with Mott, he doesn't seem like one to change jocks after bad rides for whatever reason.

[hockey2315]

P.S. On the turf tomorrow? Like some horses in the baby races.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

P.S. On the turf tomorrow? Like some horses in the baby races.

Only the 10th is off.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Only the 10th is off.

Thanks

[randallscott35]

Blanket finishes at 12 furlongs should tell you to downgrade the whole lot.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Blanket finishes at 12 furlongs should tell you to downgrade the whole lot.

Hmm. . . well. . . my point was that there wouldn't be a blanket finish if Al Khali was given even a half-competent ride. Thanks for your valuable insight, though.