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Old 10-10-2006, 11:25 PM
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The reality is (and it's a pretty sad reality) that Brother Derek is probably one of the top 10 Classic contenders at this point. But he's very far behind the top 2-3 contenders. After u get past Bernardini, Lava Man, and Invasor (if he runs), can u honestly say that Brother Derek is outclassed by any of the rest of the Classic contenders? He ran as well against Lava Man as Perfect Drift did. Strong Contender, Ball Four, It's No Joke? None of them outclass him. Bright One? Sun King? I don't see them as outclassing him either. I'm not saying he's better than them but I think he fits. If he's able to get fourth, or third if Invasor is not there, it's worth it to go. Usually, I say that if u aren't entering to win a race or using a race as a prep for a bigger one that u shouldn't go. But the purses of the BC make it different. I don't think Brother Derek has a shot in hell to win the race. But outside of Bernardini and Lava Man, I don't think anyone else does either.
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:44 AM
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The reality is (and it's a pretty sad reality) that Brother Derek is probably one of the top 10 Classic contenders at this point. But he's very far behind the top 2-3 contenders. After u get past Bernardini, Lava Man, and Invasor (if he runs), can u honestly say that Brother Derek is outclassed by any of the rest of the Classic contenders? He ran as well against Lava Man as Perfect Drift did. Strong Contender, Ball Four, It's No Joke? None of them outclass him. Bright One? Sun King? I don't see them as outclassing him either. I'm not saying he's better than them but I think he fits. If he's able to get fourth, or third if Invasor is not there, it's worth it to go. Usually, I say that if u aren't entering to win a race or using a race as a prep for a bigger one that u shouldn't go. But the purses of the BC make it different. I don't think Brother Derek has a shot in hell to win the race. But outside of Bernardini and Lava Man, I don't think anyone else does either.
Agree completely, King G. Brother Derek is not outclassed by any horse in the race except the top 3, which may well become the top 2, and the unproven-on-dirt Europeans. For that matter, I actually think the 75-1 future odds on him are attractive.

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Old 10-11-2006, 01:35 PM
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It doesn't surprise me that he started working great,and running great at where???????? Santa Anita. He is a known commodity at this track. Why keep forcing him to run at tracks he obviously doesn't like nearly as much.
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Old 10-11-2006, 02:22 PM
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I think it's far too early to call Brother Derek a lesser animal. He had a horrendous experience in the Triple Crown, he is a very efficient mover and has nice tactical speed. If he could learn to relax and rate a little better he could be a very nice horse. I loved the way he looked on track Saturday, he has matured nicely and muscled out well. I could see him developing a running style like one of my all time favorites, Medaglia d' Oro.
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Old 10-11-2006, 02:29 PM
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Hes much better than most people think. Hell have a good showing in the BCC. Rounding back into form. I was very impressed with his last race, he had a bad trip and still finished running.
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Old 10-11-2006, 02:57 PM
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Latest report has him and Giacomo in the Classic.
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Old 10-11-2006, 03:03 PM
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I thought he ran a nice race on Saturday, hopefully he progresses to be a nice 4yo...
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Old 10-11-2006, 03:40 PM
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Brother Derek should stay in California, Whenever he runs elsewhere he comes in 4th.........Derby,Preakness and Juvenile..He is a cut below, but in California, he is a cut above..........
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