No Food Stamps For Soda

dellinger63 · #1 10-07-2010, 11:05 AM

Why punish everyone on food stamps when the target is obesity? How about the skinny, redneck, meth-head who sells his family's stamps each month for 50 cents on the dollar?

Crap, I just stigmatized rednecks.

randallscott35 · #2 10-07-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

Why punish everyone on food stamps when the target is obesity? How about the skinny, redneck, meth-head who sells his family's stamps each month for 50 cents on the dollar?

Crap, I just stigmatized rednecks.

Once you get the food, I can't control what you do with it....but we don't let people on food stamps, say, buy cigarettes, so soda is in the same vein as far as I'm concerned.

dalakhani · #3 10-07-2010, 11:19 AM

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Once you get the food, I can't control what you do with it....but we don't let people on food stamps, say, buy cigarettes, so soda is in the same vein as far as I'm concerned.

How about Butter? Crisco?

randallscott35 · #4 10-07-2010, 11:20 AM

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How about Butter? Crisco?

You are comparing soda to butter?

dalakhani · #5 10-07-2010, 11:21 AM

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You are comparing soda to butter?

How about soda to crisco?

randallscott35 · #6 10-07-2010, 11:24 AM

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How about soda to crisco?

I stand by my original post. You can agree to disagree...But realize they already disallow purchases of certain items from food stamps so simply bringing up this or that is besides the point. The food stamp law is clear that not everything is considered food.

dalakhani · #7 10-07-2010, 11:29 AM

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I stand by my original post. You can agree to disagree...But realize they already disallow purchases of certain items from food stamps so simply bringing up this or that is besides the point. The food stamp law is clear that not everything is considered food.

I think its a great topic Randall and I really don't have a position one way or the other although I think that government is opening up pandora's box when it goes this deeply into regulating what food stamps can buy. The items that are currently prohibited are clearly defined and really no logical debate can be made. But this soda thing? Where do you draw the line? Are sodas bad but fried chicken is okay?? What comes next?

alysheba4 · #8 10-07-2010, 11:30 AM

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You are comparing soda to butter?

......i would say its more about "big brother" .....

randallscott35 · #9 10-07-2010, 11:32 AM

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......i would say its more about "big brother" .....

Not really actually. This is government cheese we are talking about. If you don't want a handout you can drink 10 liters of soda a day.

Cannon Shell · #10 10-10-2010, 02:30 PM

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You are comparing soda to butter?

You compared soda to cigarettes

randallscott35 · #11 10-10-2010, 03:13 PM

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You compared soda to cigarettes

Yes.

Cannon Shell · #12 10-10-2010, 04:27 PM

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Yes.

how are they comparable?

dellinger63 · #13 10-07-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Once you get the food, I can't control what you do with it....but we don't let people on food stamps, say, buy cigarettes, so soda is in the same vein as far as I'm concerned.

$200 in stamps gets you at least $100 in cash. No food involved.

randallscott35 · #14 10-07-2010, 11:31 AM

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$200 in stamps gets you at least $100 in cash. No food involved.

Wonderful. Fraud exists everywhere. Obviously it is wrong. Not really on topic though. It is what you use the food stamps for in the store. If you are selling them for meth, then this doesn't affect you anyway.

dellinger63 · #15 10-07-2010, 11:55 AM

[quote=randallscott35;704534]Wonderful. Fraud exists everywhere. Obviously it is wrong. Not really on topic though. It is what you use the food stamps for in the store. If you are selling them for meth, then this doesn't affect you anyway.[/QUOTE]

When a guy goes into a store and is able to turn in his stamps for cash he usually isn't going to invest that money. Hopefully he is buying cigarettes and liquor and not crack and a hot gun. Nonetheless it affects everyone and especially those footing the bill.

Then when Akmand the store owner turns in the $200 in stamps he gets cash. Of course since he didn't sell any food he is now able to be creative on paper diverting his 100% profit to fake distribution companies hopefully not in Iran or Syria. Multipy by a 100 people and he's pulling in $10K/Month with no taxes for counting money and mailing an envelope. Multiply that by number of stores and you get the idea. Another fine taxpayer-subsidized fiasco.

randallscott35 · #16 10-07-2010, 12:02 PM

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Wonderful. Fraud exists everywhere. Obviously it is wrong. Not really on topic though. It is what you use the food stamps for in the store. If you are selling them for meth, then this doesn't affect you anyway.[/QUOTE]

When a guy goes into a store and is able to turn in his stamps for cash he usually isn't going to invest that money. Hopefully he is buying cigarettes and liquor and not crack and a hot gun. Nonetheless it affects everyone and especially those footing the bill.

Then when Akmand the store owner turns in the $200 in stamps he gets cash. Of course since he didn't sell any food he is now able to be creative on paper diverting his 100% profit to fake distribution companies hopefully not in Iran or Syria. Multipy by a 100 people and he's pulling in $10K/Month with no taxes for counting money and mailing an envelope. Multiply that by number of stores and you get the idea. Another fine taxpayer-subsidized fiasco.

Outrage it up. But you are off topic.

dellinger63 · #17 10-07-2010, 12:53 PM

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Outrage it up. But you are off topic.

I could give a crap if some fatazz kid is drinking a coke bought w/food stamps.

the_fat_man · #18 10-07-2010, 03:00 PM

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Then when Akmand the store owner turns in the $200 in stamps he gets cash. Of course since he didn't sell any food he is now able to be creative on paper diverting his 100% profit to fake distribution companies hopefully not in Iran or Syria. Multipy by a 100 people and he's pulling in $10K/Month with no taxes for counting money and mailing an envelope. Multiply that by number of stores and you get the idea. Another fine taxpayer-subsidized fiasco.

Add to this all the subsidized nonagenarian Asians that have never worked a day in this county, as they're recent immigrants, and all the recent immigrant Arabs having their food subsidized while driving $50k SUV's, and you kind of wonder why they don't crack down on who exactly is getting subsidized rather than what they can buy. Nothing like all the foreigners teaching the locals how to manipulate the system. And we're worried about soda?

Riot · #19 10-09-2010, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

When a guy goes into a store and is able to turn in his stamps for cash he usually isn't going to invest that money. Hopefully he is buying cigarettes and liquor and not crack and a hot gun. Nonetheless it affects everyone and especially those footing the bill.

Then when Akmand the store owner turns in the $200 in stamps he gets cash. Of course since he didn't sell any food he is now able to be creative on paper diverting his 100% profit to fake distribution companies hopefully not in Iran or Syria. Multipy by a 100 people and he's pulling in $10K/Month with no taxes for counting money and mailing an envelope. Multiply that by number of stores and you get the idea. Another fine taxpayer-subsidized fiasco.

Food "stamps" haven't been real coupons ("stamps) for some years now. Food assistance is a debit card with an amount loaded on by the government, and having a PIN set by the person getting the assistance. In grocery stores where the card is swiped, it will reject paying for non-food items (like toilet paper, guns, cigarettes, etc)

About the only way left to get cash for your food assistance now is to buy groceries with it, then stand in the parking lot trying to sell those groceries to others at half-price for cash out of your trunk (what they do at a local WalMart near where I live, and yes, illegal)

paisjpq · #20 10-10-2010, 07:59 PM

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Food "stamps" haven't been real coupons ("stamps) for some years now. Food assistance is a debit card with an amount loaded on by the government, and having a PIN set by the person getting the assistance. In grocery stores where the card is swiped, it will reject paying for non-food items (like toilet paper, guns, cigarettes, etc)

About the only way left to get cash for your food assistance now is to buy groceries with it, then stand in the parking lot trying to sell those groceries to others at half-price for cash out of your trunk (what they do at a local WalMart near where I live, and yes, illegal)

Or they go into a mini mart and buy a couple gallons of milk w their EBT card, walk out to the car and then come back in "my girlfriend says we have milk at home can I return these?" Return them for cash and then suddenly remember he needed to get a couple of powerball tickets and some scratch offs. I've seen it done more than once.