Rachel Alexandra - what would her odds be in the BC Distaff?

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

She looked awful at Saratoga but the horse she crushed came back to win the Beldame. Get the connection?

Life At Ten also lost to an inferior horse at Saratoga and came back to win. Get the connection?

She was walking at the end because the jockeys rode the race like a match race. She won the match. She just got run down by a longshot, who neither jock thought could beat them. I think Persistantly proved her win in the PE was a fluke with her showing in the Beldame.

The truth is she would have had a very good chance in the Beldame and the Distaff. No shame in running there....except for Jess Jackson.

personally, i think he should of retired her before. thats what i was saying. heres the thing win or lose, what does it prove? the horse has proven greatness. sorry, about the "emotions" comment. i love the horse too. but, i felt she was in trouble after the woodward. just by the number of races i've watched and the long layoff. posted it here months and months ago and got attacked as some sort of zenyatta lover. i just call it like i see it. yes, i did attack some of the rachel "fanatics". because judgment becomes clouded by fandum. i sort of think people are killing the messanger (jackson) for telling them, its over. i don't think he ever wants to see another race like the last one. the connection is, someone might of dueled her into the ground the next time too. do you think they were going to concede the lead after they saw the last race?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

personally, i think he should of retired her before. thats what i was saying. heres the thing win or lose, what does it prove? the horse has proven greatness. sorry, about the "emotions" comment. i love the horse too. but, i felt she was in trouble after the woodward. just by the number of races i've watched and the long layoff. posted it here months and months ago and got attacked as some sort of zenyatta lover. i just call it like i see it. yes, i did attack some of the rachel "fanatics". because judgment becomes clouded by fandum.

See I'm of the opinion that just because there is nothing left to prove, per se, that doesn't mean she should be retired. They aren't raced to prove things are they?

I don't see anything wrong with running as long as she is competitive. She was competitive. She was beat what, less than 2 lengths combined in her three races?

Was there anything left to prove for Cigar in 1996? Probably not, but I'm glad he came back. He wasn't the same horse late in that season, but he ran his eyeballs out in the JCGC and Breeders Cup and didn't disgrace himself at all.

When all is said and done we don't make the decisions, which is probably a good thing. But ego (on both sides) prevented a match up the fans called for, for over a year. And it feels like ego retired Rachel before she had a chance to finish out the year on a track she had one of her defining races.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

the connection is, someone might of dueled her into the ground the next time too. do you think they were going to concede the lead after they saw the last race?

It's all speculation, but I think she would have rated kindly off the pace, if Fragoso sent like he did.