BEYER: Defining Zenyatta's historical role

[JerseyJ]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Going from synthetic to dirt (see Zardana, et al)

Had perfect prep race after being on shelf for two months

Fresh, fit, and moving from less than ideal distance (8.5f) to ideal distance (10f)

Trained by a guy who owns big score at CD.



You guys do realize that Z could be sitting on a big one here … right?

That "big one" is a career top of a 104 on dirt against a shaky field where the other horse in the race who wasn't much to begin with ran like crap anyway. Gonna take a whole lot better than a 104 to beat Blame, Quality Road, etc.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by JerseyJ

That "big one" is a career top of a 104 on dirt against a shaky field where the other horse in the race who wasn't much to begin with ran like crap anyway. Gonna take a whole lot better than a 104 to beat Blame, Quality Road, etc.

The irony is that Blame and Quality Road are hardly good horses in a historical sense. Neither would currently break into the top 100.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The irony is that Blame and Quality Road are hardly good horses in a historical sense. Neither would currently break into the top 100.

It's not ironic....it's legit and sad.

[Smooth Operator]

Where do you have Macho Again and Bullsbay on that top 100 list, Cannon?

[JerseyJ]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Where do you have Macho Again and Bullsbay on that top 100 list, Cannon?

Hmmm, where do I have Washington on the College Football Top 25 polls? Better yet, where does everyone else?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by JerseyJ

Hmmm, where do I have Washington on the College Football Top 25 polls? Better yet, where does everyone else?

Somewhere between Rutgers and South Florida

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by philcski

Somewhere between Rutgers and South Florida

Phil....TULANE???

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Where do you have Macho Again and Bullsbay on that top 100 list, Cannon?

Right below Washington

[Honu]

I wonder why no one ships in for a couple of hundrend g's to beat the big mare? Can it just be that they are so against synthetics that they wouldnt dare come race on principle alone. Is it the owners who dont want to try it or the trainers? Her races on dirt show alot more turn of foot than her races on synthetic of course this just my opinon but I just dont get why a 5k plane ride and some hotel rooms for help doesnt attract more people to come and try and beat her. Its gotta be the synthetic principle, call b ullshit but dont show up to prove it.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Honu

I wonder why no one ships in for a couple of hundrend g's to beat the big mare? Can it just be that they are so against synthetics that they wouldnt dare come race on principle alone. Is it the owners who dont want to try it or the trainers? Her races on dirt show alot more turn of foot than her races on synthetic of course this just my opinon but I just dont get why a 5k plane ride and some hotel rooms for help doesnt attract more people to come and try and beat her. Its gotta be the synthetic principle, call b ullshit but dont show up to prove it.

She is running in filly races. Horses that win the BC Classic shouldnt stick to filly races. It isn't like there are a whole lot of horses shipping in to run in the colt races for better money against ordinary horses either. The fact is that the older horse and filly/mare divsion are pretty thin. And that is being nice.