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Old 10-04-2010, 07:51 AM
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She would have been a Superstar in any era on any surfaces. Her races at Oaklawn were also dominant.
Agreed...
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:33 AM
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And by the way... No one was more impressive, in defeat, than Crown of Thorns. That was some try in the Goodwood.
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:38 AM
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And by the way... No one was more impressive, in defeat, than Crown of Thorns. That was some try in the Goodwood.
Are they planning on sending him to the Breeder's Cup?
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:44 AM
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Are they planning on sending him to the Breeder's Cup?
I'll have Mandella today (I think) and find out plans. If not a Classic try, then wouldn't a cutback to the Dirt Mile be right in his wheelhouse at this juncture?
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:45 AM
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Rigoletta's effort in the Oak Leaf is another weekend effort that was outstanding..
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:46 AM
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I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the weekend live. I am really looking forward to your view on blame and who you think is the horse to beat in this years BCC.
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:52 AM
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I'll have Mandella today (I think) and find out plans. If not a Classic try, then wouldn't a cutback to the Dirt Mile be right in his wheelhouse at this juncture?
Thanks I'll be listening, always liked Crown of Thorns...and yeah that was kinda my next question...which race would they be pointing towards. What did you think of Winter Memories? That seemed really impressive for a second time starter.
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:40 PM
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Thanks I'll be listening, always liked Crown of Thorns...and yeah that was kinda my next question...which race would they be pointing towards. What did you think of Winter Memories? That seemed really impressive for a second time starter.
Richard Mandella just confirmed on ATR that the Dirt Mile will be their first choice with Crown of Thorns with the Classic as a remote possiblity...

Winter Memories was tremendous. It's hard to conceive of her turning out even as good as her dam, but she's certainly off to as ideal a start in that direction as possible. Little in the upcoming Cup would please me more than Jimmy Toner getting attention and doing well.
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:50 PM
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Richard Mandella just confirmed on ATR that the Dirt Mile will be their first choice with Crown of Thorns with the Classic as a remote possiblity...

Winter Memories was tremendous. It's hard to conceive of her turning out even as good as her dam, but she's certainly off to as ideal a start in that direction as possible. Little in the upcoming Cup would please me more than Jimmy Toner getting attention and doing well.
Thanks for getting the info...hopefully they stick to the Dirt Mile. I'm really looking forward to seeing what Winter Memories can do in a few weeks. Good stuff with the Johnny D segment...it was kind of like a horse who is a runoff.
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:39 AM
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Zenyatta looked like she was beaten and got up to win at a distance that isn't her favorite. Gary Stevens was there and impressed as well. Garry said 'she just continues to amaze me'.

My pick is Zenyatta.
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Old 10-04-2010, 11:07 PM
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Zenyatta looked like she was beaten and got up to win at a distance that isn't her favorite. Gary Stevens was there and impressed as well. Garry said 'she just continues to amaze me'.

My pick is Zenyatta.
Funny that she can be 11 for 11 at 1 1/16th, her connection keep choosing to run her that distance and yet somehow it is a weak distance for her...

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Old 10-04-2010, 11:12 PM
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Funny that she can be 11 for 11 at 1 1/16th, her connection keep choosing to run her that distance and yet somehow it is a weak distance for her...

Gary Stevens is easily amazed
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Old 10-04-2010, 09:42 AM
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And by the way... No one was more impressive, in defeat, than Crown of Thorns. That was some try in the Goodwood.
Well said SB. He was tons better than Richards Kid, imo.
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Old 10-04-2010, 11:52 AM
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Uncle Mo had a nice workout. I didn't see it, but it had to be awesome.


I was more impressed with Blame than most anyone else this weekend.

I still say Zenyatta likely only won because of Switch getting green late.
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:43 PM
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Uncle Mo had a nice workout. I didn't see it, but it had to be awesome.


I was more impressed with Blame than most anyone else this weekend.

I still say Zenyatta likely only won because of Switch getting green late.
The filly was tired. She didn't switch because she was "green" all of a sudden. Many horses swap their leads when they get tired. There's a couple of pictures up of both horses at the wire. Z's ears are straight up and Switch's are back. Switch ran a terrific race, but the pictures show who was well within themelves.
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Old 10-04-2010, 07:01 PM
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The filly was tired. She didn't switch because she was "green" all of a sudden. Many horses swap their leads when they get tired. There's a couple of pictures up of both horses at the wire. Z's ears are straight up and Switch's are back. Switch ran a terrific race, but the pictures show who was well within themelves.
I am amazed at what some people don't see. They can't be watching a horse race.
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Old 10-04-2010, 07:22 PM
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What a surprise....Zenyatta fans pretending they "get it" or are seeing something others can't.

There's an original concept.
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Old 10-04-2010, 07:23 PM
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I am amazed at what some people don't see. They can't be watching a horse race.
I saw that too. Horses defineatly swap their leads when tired. Especially a classy animal who was probably trying to do too much to hold that amazon off. Would be interesting to go back and see what became of all the fillies that finished 2nd to Queenie.
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Old 10-04-2010, 11:12 PM
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The filly was tired. She didn't switch because she was "green" all of a sudden. Many horses swap their leads when they get tired. There's a couple of pictures up of both horses at the wire. Z's ears are straight up and Switch's are back. Switch ran a terrific race, but the pictures show who was well within themelves.
Freakin Mike Smith! Hitting that poor horse 10 times in the stretch when it was so clear that she was well within herself...
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Old 10-05-2010, 09:27 AM
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Freakin Mike Smith! Hitting that poor horse 10 times in the stretch when it was so clear that she was well within herself...
Really? She's now supposed to win without having the use of the whip? She's supposed to run down a horse, that had gotten just about the best possible trip imaginable, EASILY? Is that where we are with Z now?

What other horses are held to similar standards?
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