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Old 10-10-2006, 04:12 PM
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So what are we to do if he's never challenged? Obey pgardn's rules of constantly writing off his competition and never call him great? That's basically like saying he's too good to be considered great.
I'm sorry, but I can't call a horse "great" until he's proven he's great. So shoot me... we disagree on Bernardini. Can we agree to disagree? If he wins the BCC, I'll jump on his bandwagon with the rest of you guys, but seriously... this is ludicrous to call him the GOAT.
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:18 PM
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I'm sorry, but I can't call a horse "great" until he's proven he's great. So shoot me... we disagree on Bernardini. Can we agree to disagree? If he wins the BCC, I'll jump on his bandwagon with the rest of you guys, but seriously... this is ludicrous to call him the GOAT.
I'm not shooting you. I'm asking you a question. What if he's never challenged? Can he never be called great? Because that's how pgardn feels and I think that's ridiculous.
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:19 PM
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I'm not shooting you. I'm asking you a question. What if he's never challenged? Can he never be called great? Because that's how pgardn feels and I think that's ridiculous.
Lets take pgardn's toys away.

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Old 10-10-2006, 04:19 PM
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I'm not shooting you. I'm asking you a question. What if he's never challenged? Can he never be called great? Because that's how pgardn feels and I think that's ridiculous.
If hes never challenged in the BCC and wins then yes you can still call him great. But don't count on him not being challenged. Invasor ain't Hemingway's key.
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:21 PM
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I'm not shooting you. I'm asking you a question. What if he's never challenged? Can he never be called great? Because that's how pgardn feels and I think that's ridiculous.
If he blows through the BCC field like he's done the past several races, then yeah, he's pretty amazing. He can only race what shows up... not his fault if others are freaked out. He'll be up against a lot more in the BCC than he has been all year and yes, you could call him great if he beat all of them in a similar fashion.
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:23 PM
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Nor is Invasor Dylan Thomas. Where did they get that goat? They should give him a long rest and point him towards the Fairplex 2007 meet.
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:25 PM
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Nor is Invasor Dylan Thomas. Where did they get that goat? They should give him a long rest and point him towards the Fairplex 2007 meet.
Tim hes a European classic winner and he just didn't like the dirt.
Thats a little bit steep wouldn't you say?
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:30 PM
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I was kidding. Maybe Calder is a better fit for him. The turf course is lush and green. He needed binocs to see Bernardinis fat ass.
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:29 PM
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I would still find it hard to call a horse great based on the 1 race. But then I have a problem with the whole Breeders Cup concept.

I would rather see him race as a 4 year old; maybe even take a few defeats, but it would depend on how he raced in those defeats.
Seattle Slew completed his Triple Crown undefeated. But what he did as a 4 year old is what I really remember. He faced the best: won 2 and lost 2.
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Old 11-06-2006, 10:02 PM
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If he blows through the BCC field like he's done the past several races, then yeah, he's pretty amazing. He can only race what shows up... not his fault if others are freaked out. He'll be up against a lot more in the BCC than he has been all year and yes, you could call him great if he beat all of them in a similar fashion.


This thread makes pretty cool reading as far as reflecting back on what we were all thinking 4 weeks ago before the cup.

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Old 11-06-2006, 10:09 PM
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I forgive them for they are young and know not what they do.
Been thru this so many times before with other horses...

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