Rachel Alexandra Retired - Page 6

Sightseek · #**101** 09-29-2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerS

I am not saying they should ignore you or anyone. You always need new customers. Todays smaller bettor may be a bigger bettor going forward. And even if not you want to have more players. But its about focus. When you have limited ad dollars you need to be careful about where you spend them.

But its all about handle and thats where the focus should be. Understand you want the experience of the newbie to be good- so they come back.

Too many tracks spend alot of time on giveaways and cheesy promotions that may get people in one time but not enough on their core player. It shouldnt all be directed at the on track player either. Although I think racing offers tremendous value when compared to other entertainment options (look at cost of going to Belmont compared to a major sporting event in NY). Reality is most players arent going to the track anymore, for a variety of reasons. How often do we see tracks running races running at the same time as others, or poor sound quality. Bad viewing angles.

You look at some of the websites even and its downright embarrassing what some have up there. NYRA does a good job but not enough do.

Excellent points.

miraja2 · #**102** 09-29-2010, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

RA vs Z never happening was a loss to the sport.

Not really. Didn't you read this thread Chuck?
RA was so tired after the Woodward that she was never able to run fast again for the rest of her life. Every horsey-board dunce could see that so they probably wouldn't have shown up to watch/bet anyway since RA obviously wouldn't have had a chance.

iamthelurker · #**103** 09-29-2010, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Actually I talked to her new life coach and she's been incredibly stressed out the past few months. She's wanting to move on to a far less stressful life of getting railed a few times a year and eating the finest hay and drinking the distillest of the illest water.

She told me personally that she's got the hots for Curlin and has been dying to get at him since she won horse of the year.

Clip-Clop · #**104** 09-29-2010, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by iamthelurker

She told me personally that she's got the hots for Curlin and has been dying to get at him since she won horse of the year.

Can't blame her, dude's a stud.

2Hot4TV · #**105** 09-29-2010, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

This is ridiculous. Go back and watch the fleur de lis again from this year and then explain to me why it is so much worse than most of her races last year, or how it is evidence that she "didn't want to race."
Just because she won the Oaks by a huge margin last year doesn't mean she ran better in that race than she did this year going 9f at CD. In fact, she basically ran the exact same race again except this year she ran a little bit faster while also carrying a couple of extra pounds.
Clearly she didn't turn in performances this year that were quite on par with what she did in the Haskell and Woodward last year, but her races this year stack up pretty well with what she did last year at Oaklawn, and in the Oaks and Preakness, etc. I think the idea that she fell out of form dramatically this year is completely wrong.

I'm not saying she fell out of form, she just failed to do what a filly with her ability and class will do.

WIN as a 4 yo. Some just no longer have a intrest in racing.

Even her trainer expressed concerns about "Keeping her happy" and not wanting to do anything to upset her routine. Hell he was walking on eggs to try and figure out how to get her to use that extra gear. Experianced horse people on this board told us that she was done and most didn't listen.

miraja2 · #**106** 09-29-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

I'm not saying she fell out of form, she just failed to do what a filly with her ability and class will do.

WIN as a 4 yo. Some just no longer have a intrest in racing.

So who won the Fleur de Lis and the Lady's Secret?

I still don't understand your point. Can you explain to me how her performance in the Fleur de Lis (in particular) demostrated her lack of interest in racing this year?

Merlinsky · #**107** 09-29-2010, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Actually I talked to her new life coach and she's been incredibly stressed out the past few months. She's wanting to move on to a far less stressful life of getting railed a few times a year and eating the finest hay and drinking the distillest of the illest water.

As long as they don't get her to make a macaroni necklace. She's probably gonna try to eat that. Can't be good for the digestion.

ateamstupid · #**108** 09-29-2010, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

So who won the Fleur de Lis and the Lady's Secret?

I still don't understand your point. Can you explain to me how her performance in the Fleur de Lis (in particular) demostrated her lack of interest in racing this year?

SHE WAS SAD DON'T YOU GETS IT

!!!!!!!!!!!! That's totally why she ran 2 or 3 Beyer points slower this year than last!!!!

Danzig · #**109** 09-29-2010, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm not sure I agree that the highlighted part has actually happened...though it has sure been talked to death.

Obviously, I agree with the latter part.

Yes, you want to introduce new people to the game if possible, and explore that, but it is your core customer that needs to be catered to.

agreed. you've got your core, keep them happy, they keep coming back. newbies? they might come back.

the first thing racing needs to do is make sure all bet takers are giving the money to the tracks.
second thing that needs to happen is lower take out.

tracks are better off with the first, bettors with the second.

lastly, help owners perhaps make a bit more money. that brings in more owners, as well as aiding current owners to invest more.
god, it's so simple!

Danzig · #**110** 09-29-2010, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

SHE WAS SAD DON'T YOU GETS IT

!!!!!!!!!!!! That's totally why she ran 2 or 3 Beyer points slower this year than last!!!!

i think it's all because zenyatta came out of retirement. rachel was never the same after....

OldDog · #**111** 09-30-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I predict that RA will continue to have workouts and be brought out of retirement for the BC.

Or to race again next year.

She really wants to keep racing.

I have to admit: I chuckled at this.

TouchOfGrey · #**112** 09-30-2010, 12:10 PM

More from Scott Blasi:

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Blasi said there is nothing wrong with Rachel physically. After she had a bullet work of 48.45 seconds for four furlongs on Monday, some eyebrows were raised when she was retired from the game on Tuesday.

"She is healthy, she is good, she is happy," Blasi said.

He also said that she was prepared to run in Saturday's $350,000 Grade I Beldame at Belmont Park if that was the way Jackson wanted to go.

Theatrical · #**113** 09-30-2010, 01:56 PM

Interview with Hal Wiggins:

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breed...ks-rachel.aspx

Clip-Clop · #**114** 09-30-2010, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Theatrical

Interview with Hal Wiggins:

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breed...ks-rachel.aspx

Classy guy thanks for posting.
Guess the question now has to be if he owned her would she have been a TC winner?

2Hot4TV · #**115** 09-30-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

So who won the Fleur de Lis and the Lady's Secret?

I still don't understand your point. Can you explain to me how her performance in the Fleur de Lis (in particular) demostrated her lack of interest in racing this year?

I guess Hal wiggins is a fool too, but it seems that he to thought that the Woodward was RAs turning point.

I think Steve did a great job with her in 2009, winning all those races. It was very aggressive and they got what they wanted out of her. But I think they paid the price. I think the Woodward gutted her.
JS: So you think the Woodward took that much out of her. What makes you say that?

HW: Just watching the race. She was all out and I think sometimes when a filly has to do that she has a hard time coming back, even with rest. It might have quit being fun for her. When she was running against 3-year-old fillies she was never extended; she did it so easily. After races, she was dragging the rider around the track. After you give everything you have a couple times, it takes something away from them.

But then what does he know.

Danzig · #**116** 09-30-2010, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TouchOfGrey