ryder cup

[philcski]

Originally Posted by GPK

I don't see it Phil. Europe may win, but I don't think it's gonna be a steamroll. I, for one, am looking forward to a great weekend of golf.

The Euro lineup is stronger top to bottom... and they don't even have two of their best players on the team (Casey and Rose.) Homecourt advantage on a course built specifically for this event. Based on how they are playing right now/have played in previous Ryder Cups, I would rank them as such:

Jim Furyk Rory McIlroy
Dustin Johnson Luke Donald
Steve Stricker Graeme McDowell
Phil Mickelson Ian Poulter
Zach Johnson Martin Kaymer
Stewart Cink Lee Westwood (Westwood has an injury concern or would be higher)
Tiger Woods Francesco Molinari
Bubba Watson Edoardo Molinari
Matt Kuchar Ross Fisher
Rickie Fowler Padraig Harrington
Hunter Mahan Miguel Angel Jimenez
Jeff Overton Peter Hanson

[GPK]

Originally Posted by philcski

The Euro lineup is stronger top to bottom... and they don't even have two of their best players on the team (Casey and Rose.) Homecourt advantage on a course built specifically for this event. Based on how they are playing right now/have played in previous Ryder Cups, I would rank them as such:

Jim Furyk Rory McIlroy
Dustin Johnson Luke Donald
Steve Stricker Graeme McDowell
Phil Mickelson Ian Poulter
Zach Johnson Martin Kaymer
Stewart Cink Lee Westwood (Westwood has an injury concern or would be higher)
Tiger Woods Francesco Molinari
Bubba Watson Edoardo Molinari
Matt Kuchar Ross Fisher
Rickie Fowler Padraig Harrington
Hunter Mahan Miguel Angel Jimenez
Jeff Overton Peter Hanson

That's all well and good bro...but it's The Ryder Cup, ANYTHING can, and usually does, happen. The game of golf is a fickle, fickle mistress

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by GPK

That's all well and good bro...but it's The Ryder Cup, ANYTHING can, and usually does, happen. The game of golf is a fickle, fickle mistress

Every Ryder Cup there are at least 5 miracle match play acts of God that turn or win matches. Throw away the expectations, the Cup is won by the better team, time and time again.

Tiger will win or be party to at least 3 points this weekend, as he takes advantage of the strongest part of his game. Match play is the wheelhouse of his previous game.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Every Ryder Cup there are at least 5 miracle match play acts of God that turn or win matches. Throw away the expectations, the Cup is won by the better team, time and time again.

I beg to differ. See 2008 Ryder Cup. On paper, that European team should have drowned the US...but we all know what happened there.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by GPK

I beg to differ. See 2008 Ryder Cup. On paper, that European team should have drowned the US...but we all know what happened there.

I should have said the better Match Play team which is what was meant by citing the big shots or match turning points. For the USA it is usually about the singles but "risk reward golf courses" give the USA team more than a chance but your right Kev I said it poorly.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by GPK

That's all well and good bro...but it's The Ryder Cup, ANYTHING can, and usually does, happen. The game of golf is a fickle, fickle mistress

True. I worked the Ryder Cup in '95, and the US team was SO much better than the Euros... and lost.

I like it less than I used to, but it's still a great event.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by philcski

True. I worked the Ryder Cup in '95, and the US team was SO much better than the Euros... and lost.

I like it less than I used to, but it's still a great event.

Love that golf course. Got a chance to play it in 1997 when we were in town for the tournament at Locust Hills.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by GPK

Love that golf course. Got a chance to play it in 1997 when we were in town for the tournament at Locust Hills.

I worked there for 3 years. I like it a lot, especially because it brings major tournament golf to my home town... but think it's overrated nationally. Golf Digest had it #11 in the country this time around, I am 100% positive just in NY it should not be rated above National Golf Links, Bethpage Black, and Winged Foot East- and those are just ones I've played.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by philcski

I worked there for 3 years. I like it a lot, especially because it brings major tournament golf to my home town... but think it's overrated nationally. Golf Digest had it #11 in the country this time around, I am 100% positive just in NY it should not be rated above National Golf Links, Bethpage Black, and Winged Foot East- and those are just ones I've played.

Yeah, it was nice, but I can't see it being ranked that high.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by GPK

Yeah, it was nice, but I can't see it being ranked that high.

oak hill was a roller costar for curtis strange

he became the 1st player to win back to back opens since ben hogan there in 1989

then in 1995 he was a pick of lanny wadkins and he just flat out stunk it up
he singles match against faldo was the turning point for the Euros on sunday

Nick finished 4-4-4 and Curtis finsished 5-5-5 to lose 1 down , Faldo hit a career wedge shot on 18 to close to a gimmie after driving it wa left and not being able to go for the green , curtis made bogey from the middle of the fariway , has to be one of his toughest losses ever , usa lost by 1 pt

as for Winged Foot East Kev in my opinion it is a better course than the West course . the east course lets the average player use every club in the bag. the west course is just driver , 3W on every hole for the avg member it too much