Forcing the Ball

The Indomitable DrugS · #1 09-23-2010, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

agree 100 perc..great recievers adjust the route to make the play.

I can't believe the stupidity that I'm reading.

Yes - just ignore the guy wide ass open in the middle of the field - because there's a better reciever than him on the field - and even though he's double teamed and pinned against the sidelines compared to being wide open in the middle - so what? He's a better reciever.

This is like laughable.

MaTH716 · #2 09-23-2010, 09:21 AM

Dougie, maybe they should mix it up. Don't send him on fly patterns every play. Give him an option to break a route off. Every ball to him doesn't have to be a home run, especially if he is being covered man to man. Look how much room Moss has towards the middle of the field in your graphic. I'm not arguing that Tate was open, but who would you look for first. Brady saw Moss in man to man and decided to throw his way.
It just seemed that things that were working for them in the first half stopped working in the second half and it seemed like the Pats didn't make any adjustments to the gameplan. They need to stop using him as a decoy going deep and have him run some routes where he can get involved and make some more plays.

nebrady · #3 09-23-2010, 09:37 AM

I agree they need to mix it up. But I felt they seemed to target moss too much in second half. Did they even throw it to welker? It just seemed they came out of the locker room like the game was over and the jets knew they had to win. Well see still 14 weeks left. Still think we win the division. The d is young and I'll still take our offense over anybody except maybe the saints. As long as brady keeps passing it to the young tight ends and walker we will be fine.

Dahoss · #4 09-23-2010, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by nebrady

I agree they need to mix it up. But I felt they seemed to target moss too much in second half. Did they even throw it to welker? It just seemed they came out of the locker room like the game was over and the jets knew they had to win. Well see still 14 weeks left. Still think we win the division. The d is young and I'll still take our offense over anybody except maybe the saints. As long as brady keeps passing it to the young tight ends and walker we will be fine.

The D might be young, but they are awful. I really think that is being ignored here. Did anyone watch the Jets/Ravens game? The Jets offense was nearly non existant in that game. A lot of that is the Ravens have an excellent defense and of course the Jets opened up the playbook in the Pats game.

But, the Pats D got picked apart. All we heard for a week was how Sanchez sucked. He looked like Montana againt the Pats.

I'd take the Colts offense over the Pats anyday.

The Indomitable DrugS · #5 09-23-2010, 09:45 AM

I don't think they need to mix anything up. Moss and Welker have become Brady's crack cocaine.

Let Moss attack the deep safety - Let Welker attack the middle of the field underneath - if teams want to focus on putting a tight lid on those two - and are actually good enough to do it .. the two young tight ends and Brandon Tate and Eddellman should thrive. They weren't given a fair chance at all by Brady. Sure, Hernandez had 101 yards and caught all 6 balls thrown at him .. but Brady missed him when he was wide open for a TD on the strip sack that Jason Taylor made.

If they beat the Jets next time .. it's going to be because the lesser recievers are targeted a lot more.

nebrady · #6 09-23-2010, 09:48 AM

Drugs you didn't feel at all like moss was getting targeted too much? Also I think welker is the key receiver the more receptions he has the better and think brady never should have thrown the first interception to moss he had no chance to get it! Only good thing about it, was like a long punt. But then the defense didn't do its job and hold them at the goal line. Good thing is the ills are coming to foxboro!

hoovesupsideyourhead · #7 09-23-2010, 09:52 AM

the problem was and still is that brady was getting hit and he gets rattled when the d line is in his face as do most qbs.moss has no hart and if he gets hit 1 time he puts on panties the rest of the game..

The Indomitable DrugS · #8 09-23-2010, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

the problem was and still is that brady was getting hit and he gets rattled when the d line is in his face as do most qbs.moss has no hart and if he gets hit 1 time he puts on panties the rest of the game..

You're basically making stuff up.

He's only been hit squarely with any force like 2 or 3 times in his entire career - and I don't ever remember him staying down or slowing down from a hit.

He's way bigger and stronger than all of the guys in the secondary - they wrap him.

Linebackers rarely risk going for the knockout when he comes over the middle - because if they whiff it's probably going to be a huge gainer.

The two injuries that Moss had in his entire career were both hamstring injuries and he missed 3 games from each. He does more running in a game than any player in NFL history - so he has a right to fade a little at the end - but he takes almost no punishment from hits.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #9 09-23-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You're basically making stuff up.

He's only been hit squarely with any force like 2 or 3 times in his entire career - and I don't ever remember him staying down or slowing down from a hit.

He's way bigger and stronger than all of the guys in the secondary - they wrap him.

Linebackers rarely risk going for the knockout when he comes over the middle - because if they whiff it's probably going to be a huge gainer.

The two injuries that Moss had in his entire career were both hamstring injuries and he missed 3 games from each. He does more running in a game than any player in NFL history - so he has a right to fade a little at the end - but he takes almost no punishment from hits.

funny you remember what you want.he gets hit and then grows gator arms.
after they were fined for cheating,the whole franchise went down hill..

MaTH716 · #10 09-23-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You're basically making stuff up.

He's only been hit squarely with any force like 2 or 3 times in his entire career - and I don't ever remember him staying down or slowing down from a hit.

He's way bigger and stronger than all of the guys in the secondary - they wrap him.

Linebackers rarely risk going for the knockout when he comes over the middle - because if they whiff it's probably going to be a huge gainer.

The two injuries that Moss had in his entire career were both hamstring injuries and he missed 3 games from each. He does more running in a game than any player in NFL history - so he has a right to fade a little at the end - but he takes almost no punishment from hits.

I don't remember Moss ever really getting laid out. I do think that he takes plays off, but he does seem to be running fly patterns on every play so it is understandable.
I also think that there have been occasions that he's pretty much just mailed it in. He is extremely talented, but when things aren't going his/his teams way he tends to disapear sometimes instead of trying to take the game over. Obviously he needs the QB to get him the ball, but there are times he just becomes invisable.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #11 09-23-2010, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I can't believe the stupidity that I'm reading.

Yes - just ignore the guy wide ass open in the middle of the field - because there's a better reciever than him on the field - and even though he's double teamed and pinned against the sidelines compared to being wide open in the middle - so what? He's a better reciever.

This is like laughable.

the pats suck..bradys a punk, moss is not much anymore.and you have to deal with the reality that they may get to 5 wins this year..thats laughable